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I picked up this small but well preserved mako tooth from the auction site yesterday. It caught my eye because of the small cusp-like features and what appear to be (very) rudimentary serration like waves along the edge by the cusps. It is from Chile, so the location would be right for a transitional tooth. 

 

When it arrives I'll post some shots under the microscope. I'd like to hear others thoughts on this tooth. The truth is, for $15, I don't mind if it is a transitional tooth or not, but serrations had to start somewhere ;)

 

edit: I added some zoomed in photos from the original auction, this site seemed to have stripped some of the detail out after publishing.

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Nice tooth! I recently posted a similar tooth in PRK's topic, " Best Photo". Check it out. It is the only mako that I have personally found with cusps like yours.

 

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14 minutes ago, darctooth said:

Nice tooth! I recently posted a similar tooth in PRK's topic, " Best Photo". Check it out. It is the only mako that I have personally found with cusps like yours.

 

Dave

Thanks Dave! I noticed your post lasnight. I wish we had good deposits for shark teeth near me, but we have nothing. It's always sweeter to find them yourself, but I'm ok with hunting the web for ones I really want. 

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I would be inclined to consider that as more of a slight pathology than the transitional to great white form (now known as Carcharodon hubbelli). Post additional pics once you receive it and we should know for sure.

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On December 14, 2016 at 0:32 PM, Northern Sharks said:

I would be inclined to consider that as more of a slight pathology than the transitional to great white form (now known as Carcharodon hubbelli). Post additional pics once you receive it and we should know for sure.

 

 

Hi Northern,

 

I agree.  You could call it a mild pathology or just a minor variation not necessarily leading to serrations.  I see Middle Miocene Carcharodon hastalis with weak lateral cusplets as well but you don't see consistently serrated teeth (weakly to fully serrated teeth until around the beginning of the Pliocene.

 

Jess

 

 

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On December 14, 2016 at 9:47 AM, britishcanuk said:

I picked up this small but well preserved mako tooth from the auction site yesterday. It caught my eye because of the small cusp-like features and what appear to be (very) rudimentary serration like waves along the edge by the cusps. It is from Chile, so the location would be right for a transitional tooth. 

 

 

 

 

It really depends on what layer the tooth came from.  It could have come from a Late Miocene layer which would not be old enough for a transitional tooth.  There are Late Miocene and Early Pliocene teeth from Chile.  Back in the 90's loads of teeth were available until the Chilean government outlawed the export of fossils.  It appears most of the teeth came from the Early Pliocene but I've seen a decent amount of unserrated Carchaodon hastalis teeth too which indicates a Middle to Late Miocene age.

 

 

 

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On 2016-12-14 at 0:32 PM, Northern Sharks said:

I would be inclined to consider that as more of a slight pathology than the transitional to great white form (now known as Carcharodon hubbelli). Post additional pics once you receive it and we should know for sure.

 

The tooth arrived, here are some closeups of the "cusps".

 

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Here are three what I have considered "transitional" mako's. They are from the Netherlands according to the info I received with them. The shoulders on one of them are very similar to this tooth. However there are visible serrations on all of these.

 

Tooth 1

 

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Tooth 2 

 

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Tooth 3 

 

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Sixgill, those teeth a fantastic. I would agree that your teeth are more "transitional" than mine. However those faint wavey serrations had to start somewhere.

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20 hours ago, sixgill pete said:

Here are three what I have considered "transitional" mako's. They are from the Netherlands according to the info I received with them. The shoulders on one of them are very similar to this tooth. However there are visible serrations on all of these.

 

Tooth 1

 

1a.jpg

 

1b.jpg

 

1c.jpg

 

 

Tooth 2 

 

2a.jpg

 

2b.jpg

 

Tooth 3 

 

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On 1/8/2017 at 10:22 AM, britishcanuk said:

Sixgill, those teeth a fantastic. I would agree that your teeth are more "transitional" than mine. However those faint wavey serrations had to start somewhere.

 

The point I was trying to make is that yours, at least to me seems to be an earlier stage transitional tooth. very nice tooth.

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