Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hello Everyone, I was curious about a beautiful small tooth that popped into my sifter near Summerville , SC. My assumption is from the Late Miocene ? Hawthorne Formation. I'm not very versed in mammal teeth quite yet. Is this a canid ... small fox, or wolf ? ... premolar ? These images are scans of the tooth. I have been scanning any information and images that I can find but it looks too small for a wolf and doesn't have the right chewing surfaces. Thanks of course in advance. @Harry Pristis ... maybe you have an idea, I know you are well versed in this area. Cheers, Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 What a cool tooth! I don't recognize the donor. Let us know when you identify it. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 A guess in the wilde : Coyote ? "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavialboy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 i am no expert, but it could be a otter tooth. what ever it is it is still a very cool find so congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Harry Pristis said: What a cool tooth! I don't recognize the donor. Let us know when you identify it. 9 hours ago, fifbrindacier said: A guess in the wilde : Coyote ? 23 minutes ago, sorzano95 said: i am no expert, but it could be a otter tooth. what ever it is it is still a very cool find so congrats I'm leaning toward some sort of dog/fox/coyote but with the time periods involved and the formations that are present I will be looking closely at when those animals' ancestors were just showing up on the scene. I'll check out the otter too .. I'm pretty sure it's not a rodent and is not feline. Thanks, B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 These are from a Hyaenodon 1.38" long from Nebraska. The size is closer..... Oligocene to Early Miocene. https://www.fossilera.com/fossils/hyaenodon-jaw-section-nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I second Harry's opinion--What a tooth! If it is not one that Harry is familiar with you know it has to be special. The size is about right (I believe) for something like a raccoon premolar. Small mammal teeth are such rare finds in the Peace River that I have little experience with them and could only hazard a guess. Will be interesting to see if any other TFF members have seen something similar and can make a match. Failing that, I'd contact Dr. Richard Hulbert at FLMNH and see what he can make of it. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I don't think it's a canid, certainly not a coyote. Here an otter jaw for comparison: http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Harry Pristis said: I don't think it's a canid, certainly not a coyote. Here an otter jaw for comparison: Thanks Harry, this is great .. I thought it was going to be a quick identification ! I appreciate the help and the insight. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 20 hours ago, Brett Breakin' Rocks said: Hello Everyone, I was curious about a beautiful small tooth that popped into my sifter near Summerville , SC. My assumption is from the Late Miocene ? Hawthorne Formation. I'm not very versed in mammal teeth quite yet. Is this a canid ... small fox, or wolf ? ... premolar ? These images are scans of the tooth. I have been scanning any information and images that I can find but it looks too small for a wolf and doesn't have the right chewing surfaces. Thanks of course in advance. @Harry Pristis ... maybe you have an idea, I know you are well versed in this area. Cheers, Brett Collectors find fossils from the Chandler Bridge Formation (Late Oligocene marine) in the Summerville area as well. What else did you find with that tooth? It looks raccoon-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, siteseer said: Collectors find fossils from the Chandler Bridge Formation (Late Oligocene marine) in the Summerville area as well. What else did you find with that tooth? It looks raccoon-like. Sorry, I should have clarified .... In this particular stretch these are the common/uncommon finds. Predominantly marine, Megs, Angustidens, 'Mako' ,Great White, Hemi ... etc. Yes, it could be older with these associated Angustidens. Thanks for taking a look. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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