Ramon Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I Know I have done a What Ammonite? before, and this one is probably not going to be the last one. I bought this ammonite. I want to know more about it's Taxonomy. I don't know the age, or the locality where it was found. It measures 1.25 cm. "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Judging by the sutures this one is not an ammonite. It is an ammonoid though, possibly a goniatite. Start your search with choices that were around before the Messozoic Era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Where are you buying fossils from that you are not getting information with it. I was curious about this with your trilobite post. You said you bought them at a museum and the only information on them was they were from morocco. I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, darctooth said: Where are you buying fossils from that you are not getting information with it. I was curious about this with your trilobite post. You said you bought them at a museum and the only information on them was they were from morocco. I bought them all from the Houston Museum of Natural Science. Even thought it's a museum they don't put much information. 4 minutes ago, BobWill said: Judging by the sutures this one is not an ammonite. It is an ammonoid though, possibly a goniatite. Start your search with choices that were around before the Messozoic Era. Thanks for the ID!!! "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 There is nothing wrong with purchasing fossils without information attached. I used to do it all the time when I first got into the hobbie. I did the same with mineral specimens. Sometimes when something looks "cool" you just can't pass it up. But now I won't purchase anything unless there is info with it. I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Just now, darctooth said: There is nothing wrong with purchasing fossils without information attached. I used to do it all the time when I first got into the hobbie. I did the same with mineral specimens. Sometimes when something looks "cool" you just can't pass it up. But now I won't purchase anything unless there is info with it. Next time, I buy a fossil I'm going to make sure it has all the information I want to know!!! "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I would like to see a clear picture of the sutures. Try taking the pictures outside, in natural sunlight/daylight. Also, try taking the pictures from directly above the fossil, rather than at this oblique angle. The sutures look fairly complicated to me, from the pictures provided. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Fossildude19 said: I would like to see a clear picture of the sutures. Try taking the pictures outside, in natural sunlight/daylight. Also, try taking the pictures from directly above the fossil, rather than at this oblique angle. The sutures look fairly complicated to me, from the pictures provided. Will do "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele 1937 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Phyllocera Marocco ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I think the origin of this one is Madagascar - they sell bulk lots of these to commercial dealers. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yes, the sutures on the flank do look more folded than what I was seeing on the venter. It does appear to have ammonitic folds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I'm pretty sure it's an ammonite, Bob. Although the sharpness of the photo is far from ideal, I believe that I can see ammonoid suture lines in Tim's improved pictures. It could be that Michele is on the right track with Phylloceras. It could be from Morocco but you'll probably never know for sure, since I've seen that extremely common genus with that type of preservation from sites all over the world. Phylloceras existed through a good number of ages and was distributed worldwide. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Definitly an ammonite. The Genus Phylloceras is correct. It show the typical lobes. I guess upper Jurassic or lower Cretaceous from age. Maybe from France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 The sutures kind of look like the Ceratitic. "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 They are not so complicated as those from Ammonitic. "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 It looks exactly like this one. You can find it at http://www.gaultammonite.co.uk/pages/ammonoidea/phylloceras_sp.htm it has been labeled as Phylloceras sp. From England. The size is 22 mm mine is around 1cm. The sutures look exactly like mine. I agree with those who say it's Phylloceras. It might be related to this species or a similar one. "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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