fifbrindacier Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I think #31 are bryozoans. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/14/2017 at 2:09 PM, Bone Daddy said: I often see these spines on the web as "bone needles", implying they are some kind of artifact. Did paleo-indians use these in such a manner, or is this just people looking for something that isn't there? I found one example that appeared to be sharpened on one end. I would just label them as catfish fin spine. It is illegal to keep any artifact you may find, even out-of-place material from the river, and having anything in your collection labeled as an artifact (unless you know for certain it is) could just potentially invite trouble. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Pretty sure #2 is a partial and worn fish mouth plate. Generally associated with a fish similar to a drum fish ? They can be veeery small and some quite large. There have been many discussed and displayed on the fossil forum. Black River Fossils - Micros http://www.blackriverfossils.org/USA/Alabama/Andalusia/tabid/53/TripReports/3897/Default.aspx Cheers, Brett 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone Daddy Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 hours ago, FossilDAWG said: I would just label them as catfish fin spine. It is illegal to keep any artifact you may find, even out-of-place material from the river, and having anything in your collection labeled as an artifact (unless you know for certain it is) could just potentially invite trouble. Don I would state it was found on private property.....which in this case, it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone Daddy Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/14/2017 at 6:00 PM, fifbrindacier said: I also think #29 is a cetacean tooth and maybe #30 also, but it would be better if you showed us both the ends of it. I'll snap some better photos of these and post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone Daddy Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Here are a couple of close-up photos of #29 and #30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Thanks for those pics, but i think i didn't expressed clearly myself, a problem of vocabulary without doubt. In fact what i was speaking about photos of both ends (circled in red) taken from above. Because those surfaces, mostly the chewing one, are determinant for a good identification. Like for example with one of my tooth : The chewing surface : "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone Daddy Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 I tried to get some better close-ups of the ends : 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Both look cetacean to Me. Smaller one is porpoise, the larger one is whale. Tony 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Thanks for your pics, it confirms they are both cetacean, so i'll go with @ynot. 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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