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I found this on the beach on Manasota Key ,FL looking for sharks teeth. There is a piece of bone attached underneath.Turtle or alligator ?

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Welcome to the Forum. :) 

 

I'm not seeing any bone texture to this item - to me, it looks like a strange rock. :unsure: 

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What about this tells you it isn't a rock? 

 

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11 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

What about this tells you it isn't a rock? 

 

Never seen a rock with scale like details..better picture showing this on top of the "rock"..lower right corner was the best.

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The white area looks like a silt stone, the black is an iron oxide on the silt stone and the "folded" part looks like chert.

These rocks are commonly found together.

Do not see anything that looks like a bone.

Tony

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5 minutes ago, ynot said:

The white area looks like a silt stone, the black is an iron oxide on the silt stone and the "folded" part looks like chert.

These rocks are commonly found together.

Do not see anything that looks like a bone.

Tony

Ok Thanks

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3 minutes ago, Tilly said:

Ok Thanks

It is a suggestive shape and I can see why You would think it is bone.

Good luck on the hunt!

Tony

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17 hours ago, ynot said:

It is a suggestive shape and I can see why You would think it is bone.

Good luck on the hunt!

Tony

Update...I sent the same photos via text to the University of Florida's Fossil div. They said it was a fossil and looked like a piece of mastadon tooth, but they couldn't be sure because of the condition of the specimen. 

ID was prob better viewing in an email.  Just wanted to let you know.

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Hmm.  :headscratch:

I suppose it could be part of a root, with part of a dental plate attached. 

I would never have thought that from the pictures, though. 

Congratulations. :) 

Regards,

 

 

I do wonder what @Harry Pristis, or @JohnJ , @Cris, @PrehistoricFlorida can say about this piece?

 

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1 hour ago, Fossildude19 said:

Hmm.  :headscratch:

I suppose it could be part of a root, with part of a dental plate attached. 

I would never have thought that from the pictures, though. 

Congratulations. :) 

Regards,

 

 

I do wonder what @Harry Pristis, or @JohnJ , @Cris, @PrehistoricFlorida can say about this piece?

 

 

I have no opinion on the object . . . except . . . I don't think anyone who knows anything at the FSM would spell "mastodon" with two a's.  My first thought was about mammoth enamel; but, there are some objects that defy identification from images.

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1 hour ago, Tilly said:

Update...I sent the same photos via text to the University of Florida's Fossil div. They said it was a fossil and looked like a piece of mastadon tooth, but they couldn't be sure because of the condition of the specimen. 

ID was prob better viewing in an email.  Just wanted to let you know.

They know the rock and fossils of Florida much better than I do.

Congratulations!

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12 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

 

I have no opinion on the object . . . except . . . I don't think anyone who knows anything at the FSM would spell "mastodon" with two a's.  My first thought was about mammoth enamel; but, there are some objects that defy identification from images.

My bad on the spelling. Mr Richard Hulbert, Jr. from FS spelled mastodon correctly in his reply to me.

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In my thought, I couldn't rule out a worn 'tilly bone' (hyperostotic process of a fish bone). :)

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1 hour ago, abyssunder said:

In my thought, I couldn't rule out a worn 'tilly bone' (hyperostotic process of a fish bone). :)

I agree  !!! Looking at pics on the web , I see similarities in several. Especially the sharp protrudence it has underneath. I had to laugh that it is called "tilly" like me.. :) Thank you for sharing this information !

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Tilly bones come in a wide variety of shapes, but they are always made of a consistent material -- fish bone or, specifically, mineralized fish bone.  This mystery object appears to consist of TWO materials of different hardness.

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