Peace river rat Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hopefully these pics are ok. All found by me in the peace river. Any help is great. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 It would help if You separate the items and picture each item by itself. Multiple views also helps. Front back and both (or more) sides when possible. And maybe some closeups of any distinguishing features. Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 I will try again tomorrow, I have no camera, my friend comes over with his phone and emails the pics to my laptop. I think the vert with the large process is from a bison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just another pic I already have. Will try and get better ones soon. Thanks ynot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 My last pic, above the big shark tooth, think it is an inner ear bone from a whale? Is the shark tooth great white? I don't know why my first pics were not as good as the last one I posted, same phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angie Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I don't see any serrations on the shark tooth in this picture, so I would go with mako (C. hastalis) Nice find! Looks like you're right with inner ear bone from a whale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, Peace river rat said: My last pic, above the big shark tooth, think it is an inner ear bone from a whale? It does look like a bullia. One of the 2 ear bones from cetaceans. Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Thanks fellas the tooth measures two inches and the tip is broke. The root of the tooth is exactly 1 1/2 inches across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Peace river rat said: Thanks fellas the tooth measures two inches and the tip is broke. The root of the tooth is exactly 1 1/2 inches across. Actually, I was wrong, that is not the tooth I described in the pic, but is does lack serrations as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Couple more, I think the big bone is the third bone up from bottom on a bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Mud Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The top picture appears to show four cetacean vertebrae (without the large process). The other bone looks like a phalanx - but from what - I don't know. Amazes me the variety of creatures you find in this river! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Doctor Mud said: The top picture appears to show four cetacean vertebrae (without the large process). The other bone looks like a phalanx - but from what - I don't know. Amazes me the variety of creatures you find in this river! Thanks Doctor Mud, the phalanx appears to match a life size photo in a fossil book I have as bison. The vert with the really long process appears to match bison perfectly from a photo of a modern skeleton. You never what will pop up next in the peace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Center- lower part of your forth image looks to be a mammoth tooth plate, next to it at right seems to be a Glyptodon scute plate, a little bit up - stingray barb fragments. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 40 minutes ago, abyssunder said: Center- lower part of your forth image looks to be a mammoth tooth plate, next to it at right seems to be a Glyptodon scute plate, a little bit up - stingray barb fragments. Also present, some drum teeth and the grazing mammal tooth, I ,believe is a camel. Looks a lot like a deer, only larger. Can't wait to get some better pics up. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 42 minutes ago, abyssunder said: Center- lower part of your forth image looks to be a mammoth tooth plate, next to it at right seems to be a Glyptodon scute plate, a little bit up - stingray barb fragments. What do you think of the vert in the first and second images with the long vertical process? It looks exactly like one I saw on a modern bison skeleton, where the hump on the back is formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The molar looks like a Palaeolama mirifica upper molar in occlusal view, if not presents isolated stylid, and the crown length might be around 1 in. 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Mud Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Peace river rat said: What do you think of the vert in the first and second images with the long vertical process? It looks exactly like one I saw on a modern bison skeleton, where the hump on the back is formed. Certainly does, Heres a site with a 3D bison skeleton for reference: http://www.uwyo.edu/reallearning/bisonindex.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Mud Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Bison Thoracic verts for reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyc Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'm curious about the small toe bone. Try to get some better pics of both ends. Looks like it could be something cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, garyc said: I'm curious about the small toe bone. Try to get some better pics of both ends. Looks like it could be something cool! That's what I was thinking, hoping for bear or cat ! It may be a day or two until I have acsess to a camera again. Will do asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 35 minutes ago, Doctor Mud said: Bison Thoracic verts for reference. Funny thing is, it seems kinda light weight and not quite fossilized. I wonder when bison last roamed Fl.? Thanks for posting the diagram! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The lack of mineralization suggests that the vertebra is from a cow. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace river rat Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 T 16 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said: The lack of mineralization suggests that the vertebra is from a cow. The vertical process is 8 inches from the top of the vert. The only cow I could think of is a brahma? Do regular cattle have processes that tall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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