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Several insects from the Jurassic of Inner Mongolia

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My grandfather was a medical doctor and a well known entomologist. He was specialized on geometrid moths and described several hundred new species. He even has his own short Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Bastelberger .
 

But I don't know the first thing about insects. That's a bit embarrassing - if he knew that, he would turn over in his grave. So I could need a helping hand.

I got several insects from the Middle to Late Jurassic of Daohugou / Inner Mongolia, but I have no clue what they are.

Any help to nail down the order or family is greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Thomas

 

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Insect 1: 3cm

 

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Insect 2:   2cm

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Insect 3:     2.5cm

 

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Insect 4:  3cm

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Insect 5:   1.5cm

 

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Insect 6:  3cm

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Insect 7: 4cm

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Some very nice insects you've got there oilshale.  Im sorry I cant help you with any kind of ID info.  Good luck though.

 

RB

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I wonder what ever happened to @AgrilusHunter ?  

We could use his expertise here.

Great fossils as always, Thomas. 

Hope someone can help with ID's for you. 

 

Tim

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China's way out of my area of knowledge, but I think they might be a moth, fly, grasshopper type thing, another grasshopper (?), nymph, grasshopper again, and mayfly/mosquito. 

 

Ok I got something. The first one looks like Hadroblattula drepanoides. Five looks like Ephemeropsis trisetalis .  Last one could be Sibirobittacus atalus

 

The grasshoppers might be flies, maybe Protapiocera megista. 

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very nice,Thomas!!

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1 hour ago, EMP said:

China's way out of my area of knowledge, but I think they might be a moth, fly, grasshopper type thing, another grasshopper (?), nymph, grasshopper again, and mayfly/mosquito. 

 

Ok I got something. The first one looks like Hadroblattula drepanoides. Five looks like Ephemeropsis trisetalis .  Last one could be Sibirobittacus atalus

 

The grasshoppers might be flies, maybe Protapiocera megista. 

Grasshoppers, orthoptera? I don't know - I miss the elongated hindlegs for jumping. But how about cicada, leafhoppers?

So far I couldn't find Hadroblattula, but roach seems to be fine.

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I think it looks like a fly type bug now, but then again I have no real idea about China

 

Maybe the first one is a cicada, but it doesn't look quite right to me. 

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For what it's worth, the last one looks similar to a modern caddis fly of order Trichoptera. Given the size could also be Plecoptera. This would make sense with #5, which looks like possible Odonata nymph. Just food for thought, I know nothing about fossil insects.

 

G

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8 minutes ago, flyg said:

For what it's worth, the last one looks similar to a modern caddis fly of order Trichoptera. Just food for thought, I know nothing about fossil insects.

 

G

Yeah, thanks,  caddisfly can very well be.

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This advertorial might be a little useful (you have to scroll down a bit for the pics with ID):http://www.weixinyidu.com/n_1476082

 

It's pretty lacking but I haven't come across a better guide...

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You might want to check out some of the following:

 

Chang, H., et al. (2009). First Fossil Click Beetles from the Middle Jurassic of Inner Mongolia, China (Coleoptera: Elateridae). Annales Zoologici (Warszawa), 59(1).

Cui, Y., et al. (2016). The first fossil salmonfly (Insecta: Plecoptera: Pteronarcyidae), back to the Middle Jurassic. BMC Evolutionary Biology, 16(1).

Gu, J., Y-Y Zhao, and D. Ren (2004). New fossil Prophalangopsidae (Orthoptera, Hagloidea) from the Middle Jurassic of Inner Mongolia, China. Zootaxa, 2004.
Huang, J., et al. (2007). A New Fossil Genus of Siphlonuridae (Insecta: Ephemeroptera) from the Douhugou, Inner Mongolia, China. Annales Zoologici (Warszawa), 57(2).

Khramov, A.V., et al. (2016). Early Green Lacewings (Insecta: Neuroptera: Chrysopidae) from the Jurassic of China and Kazakhstan. Papers in Palaeontology, Vol.2, Part 1.

Liu, Q., et al. (2015). Two new species of Kalligrammula Handlirsch, 1919 (Insecta, Neuroptera, Kalligrammatidae) from the Jurassic of China and Kazakhstan. Journal of Paleontology, 89(3).

Makarkin, V.V., Q. Yang and D. Ren (2014). A new basal osmylid neuropteran insect from the Middle Jurassic of China linking Osmylidae to the Permian-Triassic Archeosmylidae. Acta Palaeontologica Polonica, 59(1).
Nel, A., et al. (2001). A new family of Anisoptera from the Upper Jurassic of Karatau in Kazakhstan (Insecta: Odonata: Juragomphidae n.fam.). Stuttgarter Beitr.Naturk., Ser.B, Number 314.
Ren, D. and J.D. Oswald (2002). A new genus of kalligrammatid lacewings from the Middle Jurassic of China (Neuroptera: Kalligrammatidae). Stuttgarter Beitr.Naturk., Ser.B, Number 317.

Shi, C., Q. Yang and D. Ren (2011). Two New Fossil Lacewing Species from the Middle Jurassic of Inner Mongolia, China (Neuroptera: Grammolingiidae). Acta Geologica Sinica, Vol.85, Number 2.
Sukacheva, I.D. and A.P. Rasnitsyn (2004). Jurassic Insects (Insecta) from the Sai-Sagul Locality (Kyrgyzsan, Southern Fergana). Paleontological Journal, Vol.38, Number 2.

Wang, B., et al. (2008). Preliminary elemental analysis of fossil insects from the Middle Jurassic of Daohugou, Inner Mongolia, and its taphonomic implications. Chinese Science Bulletin.

Yan, E.V., et al. (2014). The most mysterious beetles: Jurassic Jurodidae (Insecta: Coleoptera) from China. Gondwana Research, 25.
Zhao, J.-X., D. Ren and C. Shih (2010). Enigmatic earwig-like fossils from Inner Mongolia, China. Insect Science, 17.

 

-Joe

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The little egg-like individuals are conchostracans, with dispersal to Inner Mongolia, but you probably know this. Here's a document related to that, although is referring to the Lower Cretaceous (Albian) Jehol Biota ecosystem which is considered (by some scientists) to have evolved from the Daohugou Biota.

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