IonRocks Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I got this broken up jaw recently and finished putting it together (and some cleaning) today. I still have a little matrix to remove, but it's already good looking Its from the White River Formation in Wyoming. I'm not 100% certain on ID but I'd pretty sure it can be called Subhyracodon sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I think Subhyracodon is a good educated guess. I am not sure the exact sizes, but despite the name, Subhyracodon is bigger than Hyracodon, but they are both found in the White River Fm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Nicely done! Nothing more fun than a puzzle "Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe" - Saint Augustine"Those who can not see past their own nose deserve our pity more than anything else." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Im with Ash. Nothing more fun than a puzzle. I'm assuming that you may clean up the teeth? Air abrasive? RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonRocks Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 I do intend to clean up the teeth (well what's left of them, super weathered, both in that they were well used and weathered away) I hope to have my abrasive rig working better and then I will be using it. If not I may just clean them up with dental picks. @RJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Hey IonRocks. A dental pick will work wonderfully. May take bit more time but im perty sure you will have fun seeing just how well they to clean up. Good luck RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonRocks Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 Yeah so far so good. The large chunk of rock on the side of the frontmost tooth is posing a challenge though, it should very well attached to the bone and tooth. I'll have to try and wet it (very carefully) without getting the tooth too wet (it's been stabilized to the best of my ability but i will still worry about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonRocks Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 A minor update after this got some more work. This will probably be it’s final state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Good to see you back on the Forum again Parker. How is the carnivorous plant thing going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruger9a Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 IonRocks. Here are some photos of my Subhyracodon partial jaw with some teeth. Hopefully the photos will help assist you in your specimen identification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonRocks Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 The teeth are unfortunately very very worn. @caldiggerthe plant collection has slowed down lately, partially due to winter, and partially due to running out of species that are easy to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPaleo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 First off, nice specimen. All my love is for the White River. Nice job on the prep. I hate disagreeing with @jpc But in this case, I think this is a Hyracodon. I realize it looks large, but from the wear you can tell its an old individual. It would be from a full adult specimen. The Subhyracodon material I have within reach is much larger and far more robust, the heft and mass of a Sub jaw is really impressive when you can hold both examples at once. (I am socially distant from my Sub skulls) Also, I know the incisors aren't preserved on this piece but the incisors are very characteristic for these two genera. Subhyracodon has some large shoveling tusks for incisors and Hyracodon has little nipping incisors like a horse. The pictures with 3 jaws are Hyracodon in the center and two Subhyracodon on either side. I also included a Hyracodon with incisors separately as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I hate when PaleoParker disagrees with me, cuz that means I am wrong. He has done his homework. i was just guessing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPaleo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 You know I'm a huge fan of yours JP. When i have questions about the White River, you are near the top in my rolodex of people to ask. I just like to disagree with evidence. I'm still really thinking hard about how/when to write a layman's guide to White River identification. I think it's really needed in the community. So many project ideas, so little time. On second thought, I get my hands on way too much cool material as a result of ignorance, maybe I shouldn't write anything down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 9:49 AM, ParkerPaleo said: You know I'm a huge fan of yours JP. When i have questions about the White River, you are near the top in my rolodex of people to ask. I just like to disagree with evidence. I'm still really thinking hard about how/when to write a layman's guide to White River identification. I think it's really needed in the community. So many project ideas, so little time. On second thought, I get my hands on way too much cool material as a result of ignorance, maybe I shouldn't write anything down Oh, I am flattered. Disagree with evidence...i.e.... odne your homework. And Lance Fm parts guidebook, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPaleo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I'll start working on a White River book, the Lance is on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I could convince a few folks from the forum to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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