Kennymaan Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Hello everyone, How rare are petrified fungus and mushrooms? A buddy of mine has what I believe to be a petrified fungus/ mushrooms total of 4. He broke them off of a mine shaft ceiling. I will post pictures later this week. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 We will be interested to see the photos. Actual fossil mushrooms are so rare as to be non-existent, but "mushroom" fossils sometimes turn out to be something quite interesting. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 When the photos are taken, please have them taken in bright daylight. Try to make sure we have top, bottom, side views. Have a ruler or measuring tape in the photo for size reference. Looking forward to seeing these pictures. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 I will take the best pictures I can. I think these fungus/ mushrooms will be quite a sight to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I'm also looking forward to the photos, but I think it should be fair to warn you that, as Don has already said, petrified mushrooms are extremely rare, so please don't be disappointed if it turns out to be something else. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I have seen some really nice fossil mushroms from Spain, but that is the only place I have ever heard of them comming from. Looking forward to seeing Yours! Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 It's definitely a fungus or a mushroom. He has pictures of himself and 2 others inside a mine shaft. He took pictures of them still attached to the ceiling. One of California's last underground mines. I don't want to say the location. He says there's hundreds still on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 It's not very likely that if they were "still attached to the ceiling" of a mine, that they will be fossils of anything, let alone mushrooms, but I'll look forward to the pics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 It's extremely likely do to the water shelf where the fungus was located. And the type of mineral that is being mined right now. It has preservative properties. I'll post the pictures tmrw Evening to back up my claim. I will also post underground pictures of the mineshaft caverns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 What sort of mineral? ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 The mineral that's being mined around the fungus my buddy discovered. 3 minutes ago, Kane said: What sort of mineral? I don't want to give away the location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Fair enough. I was more trying to discern what you meant by preservative properties in this instance. I was also unclear about the relevance of a water shelf with respect to these items. Could you possibly describe the objects' appearance, particularly given that several of the few fossilized fungi we know of do not typically resemble the average mushroom? ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 No these don't resemble the average mushroom. Imagine a mushroom pulled inside out. As if an umbrella is growing out of a ceiling without the staff attached to it...I can't wait to show everyone. I want to radiocarbon dates them one day. Maybe hundreds of thousand years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 An umbrella turned inside out in the wind...that's how they look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmoceras Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Interesting. I highly doubt it’s a mushroom or fungus, but I eagerly await these photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 Oh I will except your apology when you them. And photos before they were taken down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Expressing doubt is nothing to apologize for. ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilshale Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Fossil sponges are quite common and are often mistaken for mushrooms by beginners: Here are two examples from the Early Campanian around Hannover, Germany. Coeloptychium sulciferum, ROEMER 1841 Coeloptychium agaricoides (GOLDFUSS, 1826) Thomas PS: Not from my collection. Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I know of several good articles on Coeloptychids. E.G.(drawback for some:in German): hausft_38.pdf Zittel's article(19th century!!) is pretty nifty as well Freely available,i'll post the link for those interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 7 hours ago, oilshale said: Fossil sponges are quite common and are often mistaken for mushrooms by beginners: Here are two examples from the Early Campanian around Hannover, Germany. Coeloptychium sulciferum, ROEMER 1841 Coeloptychium agaricoides (GOLDFUSS, 1826) Thomas PS: Not from my collection. Those look no where near what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peat Burns Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kennymaan said: Those look no where near what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 These pictures arejust a few of many I have at work. I will take photos of the actually petrified fungus/ mushroom. Im a little antsy also...have to sit until my buddy gets back from traveling later today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Fungi are preserved in,e.g.,the Rhynie Chert,Alava Amber. Im just guessing,but maybe some recent(Holocene) mushrooms got mineralized by cave drip? For fossil fungi,check the collected wrtings of Dotzler/Krings et al http://diposit.ub.edu/dspace/bitstream/2445/100980/1/655358.pdf In case anyone is wondering: funnily enough the Geologica Acta link isn't working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennymaan Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Kennymaan said: These pictures arejust a few of many I have at work. I will take photos of the actually petrified fungus/ mushroom. Im a little antsy also...have to sit until my buddy gets back from traveling later today 58 minutes ago, doushantuo said: Fungi are preserved in,e.g.,the Rhynie Chert,Alava Amber. Im just guessing,but maybe some recent(Holocene) mushrooms got mineralized by cave drip? For fossil fungi,check the collected wrtings of Dotzler/Krings et al That's a good guess. But it seems like this forum is all about guessing. I haven't seen any petrified fungi or mushrooms in here...how can someone claim what's not if that person never seen? I'll have detailed photos later. I maybe the first to actually show petrified fungi. And the white mineral show in the photo have a preserve property on the periodic table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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