Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hey all, Here is an ammonite I got from a museum as a very small kid. I have no clue about where it was found and what age it has... Any clue of the species??? Also, if you perhaps know where it could have been found (and it's age), that would be fantastic! Any help appreciated! Best regards, Max Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bone2stone Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Looks like one for Ludwigia. I think European origin. Jess B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hi Max! I agree - let's see what @Ludwigia has to say... I hope that all is well in the Netherlands! (Viola is still very much enjoying the shells you sent - I think the shells she has (both acquired and found) are her favourite items - thanks again for adding to that component of her collection! ) Monica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 hours ago, bone2stone said: Looks like one for Ludwigia. I think European origin. Jess B. Alright, let's hope he chimes in soon! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, Monica said: Hi Max! I agree - let's see what @Ludwigia has to say... I hope that all is well in the Netherlands! (Viola is still very much enjoying the shells you sent - I think the shells she has (both acquired and found) are her favourite items - thanks again for adding to that component of her collection! ) Monica Hi Monica, It's really great to hear that my shells found a new home with someone that loves them! Best regards, Max Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Looks like Dactylioceras with the outer branches, ones I have here in the Uk are 180myo, cheers. Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I think Perisphinctes but I'm usually wrong with ammonites. 2 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFOOLEY Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Dactylioceras & Perisphinctes 1 "I am glad I shall never be young without wild country to be young in. Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?" ~Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) New Mexico Museum of Natural History Bulletins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manticocerasman Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I m sure it is a Perisphinctes sp. I got very simmilar specimens from the Oxfordian in France. 1 growing old is mandatory but growing up is optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 siemir This old Pgraphica issue contains a lot of information on perisphinctids .No doubt the continous war between "lumpers" and "splitters" has engendered better/sounder taxonomy A quick peek into a Volumina Jurassica article taught me that it is still being cited..... Maybe not surprising.. be careful of Perisphinctid overload,though. It's a LOT of information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 referring to the previous : at least one revision glow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Crann said: Looks like Dactylioceras with the outer branches, ones I have here in the Uk are 180myo, cheers. Alan Thanks! I do indeed see a resemblance... 2 hours ago, TqB said: I think Perisphinctes but I'm usually wrong with ammonites. Well, seems like you were right this time! Thanks a lot! 57 minutes ago, PFOOLEY said: Dactylioceras & Perisphinctes Perisphinctes is indeed a bit more like mine. Thank you! 55 minutes ago, Kevin H. said: I m sure it is a Perisphinctes sp. I got very simmilar specimens from the Oxfordian in France. Alright, thanks for the info! Pictures? 40 minutes ago, doushantuo said: siemir This old Pgraphica issue contains a lot of information on perisphinctids .No doubt the continous war between "lumpers" and "splitters" has engendered better/sounder taxonomy A quick peek into a Volumina Jurassica article taught me that it is still being cited..... Maybe not surprising.. be careful of Perisphinctid overload,though. It's a LOT of information 17 minutes ago, doushantuo said: referring to the previous : at least one revision glow Seems interesting, but as you said it's a lot to take in, and a bit too much for me! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manticocerasman Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Perisphinctes sp. Oxfordian Naves (F) https://fossilcollection.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/p1100818.jpg 1 growing old is mandatory but growing up is optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Kevin H. said: Perisphinctes sp. Oxfordian Naves (F) https://fossilcollection.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/p1100818.jpg Very nice! Thank you! There is indeed a resemblance! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Monica said: Hi Max! I agree - let's see what @Ludwigia has to say... I hope that all is well in the Netherlands! (Viola is still very much enjoying the shells you sent - I think the shells she has (both acquired and found) are her favourite items - thanks again for adding to that component of her collection! ) Monica No, my shark teeth are supposed to be her favorites!!! Kids these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, caldigger said: No, my shark teeth are supposed to be her favorites!!! Kids these days! Hahaha!!! Not anymore, now my seashells are better! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, caldigger said: No, my shark teeth are supposed to be her favorites!!! Kids these days! Are you jalous ? 1 hour ago, Max-fossils said: Hahaha!!! Not anymore, now my seashells are better! Yes, but when they are in my plate i put the shells off, that's better for my teeth (not @caldigger's) "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, fifbrindacier said: Are you jalous ? Yes, but when they are in my plate i put the shells off, that's better for my teeth (not @caldigger's) Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Have you tried that site ? : http://www.ammonites.fr/ 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, fifbrindacier said: Have you tried that site ? : http://www.ammonites.fr/ I just have! That's a great site, it's really well made! Thanks for showing it to me. 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 hours ago, caldigger said: No, my shark teeth are supposed to be her favorites!!! Kids these days! Hi Doren! She loves her shark teeth, too, but I think she has a special place in her heart for shells. Whenever we go out hunting, she gets SO excited to see any evidence of a shell, even partial-to-the-point-that-you-can-barely-tell-there-ever-was-a-shell-there kind of evidence! I'm trying to encourage her to be a little picky about what she takes home, but she is adamant when it comes to shells (brachiopods and bivalves) - she ALWAYS brings those home, regardless of how nice/complete they are. Oh well. Everyone has their thing, I guess - even 6-year-olds! Monica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Monica said: Hi Doren! She loves her shark teeth, too, but I think she has a special place in her heart for shells. Whenever we go out hunting, she gets SO excited to see any evidence of a shell, even partial-to-the-point-that-you-can-barely-tell-there-ever-was-a-shell-there kind of evidence! I'm trying to encourage her to be a little picky about what she takes home, but she is adamant when it comes to shells (brachiopods and bivalves) - she ALWAYS brings those home, regardless of how nice/complete they are. Oh well. Everyone has their thing, I guess - even 6-year-olds! Monica Well, seems like we love the same thing! I also love seashells (both fossil and modern!). On the Zandmotor for example, most people just ignore the fossil seashells they see, meaning there are more for me! One of my best seashell specimens from the Zandmotor is my Nassarius nitidus (photo), and I really love that little jewel of mine. Also, though I find fossil reptiles just a bit more fascinating, seashells are the field I'm most familiar with, and they represent the biggest portion of my collection. My favorite species is the Apporhais pespelicani, which I have both in fossil and modern. Everyone loves their own thing! Max Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Without the location of the find it could be just a perisphinctid ammonites. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Geez! There's been an awful lot going on here since my name was mentioned! It's definitely not a Dactylioceras. Those are more serpenticone than this specimen, which, in my opinion belongs to the family of the Perisphinctidae, which gives you a choice between several hundred species. Unfortunately, as Abyssunder points out, it's not possible to narrow the choice down to less than 20 species without knowing where and in which horizon, or at least zone, it was found. 2 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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