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6 hours ago, Nanotyrannus35 said:

Nice Meg!:drool::meg:

Cheers bud! 

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This cute little dolphin mandible came in for me on Christmas Eve already, though I haven't had time since to post it here. I still wanted to share it with you all though, as I think it's a wonderful specimen!

 

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Although I suppose you could consider this a Christmas gift to myself, it wasn't intended as such. In fact, I'm not really a mammal kind of guy. But I do love how this piece demonstrates convergent evolution with marine reptiles like ichthyosaurs and plesiosaurs. Take the below section of polycotylid mandible from Asfla in Morocco, for example - the similarities, to me, are just astounding!

 

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The dolphin jaw comes from the exposure of Shark Tooth Hill at Bakersfield, by the way, and as such is of Miocene age, dating to approximately 16-15.2 mya. And I suspect that one of the reasons why it's such an excellent piece is that it comes from the collection of Bob Ernst, of the Ernst-family that runs the only quarry where collecting from Shark Tooth Hill is allowed. And for those, who like me, are either not aware as to what Shark Tooth Hill is, or have only heard its name, this page here forms an interesting read that will not only explain the significance of the site and the quarry at Bakersfield, but also why this particular addition to my collection has a certain historic significance.

 

I'm not sure as to species, though, but doubt that such could be established from just a piece of mandibular symphysis.

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Morning.

 

I finally managed to get hold of this book on Henry de la Beche. The book was published in 1977 by The National Museum of Wales and is the only autobiographical work of de la Beche that I can find.

 

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Henry de la Beche set up and was the first director of The Geological Survey of Great Britain, the precursor of The British Geological Survey. He was also the first president of The Palaeontographical Society.

 

He was also friends with Mary Anning and produced a number of cartoons/drawings such as Duria Antiquior and Awful Changes.

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8 hours ago, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said:

This cute little dolphin mandible came in for me on Christmas Eve already, though I haven't had time since to post it here. I still wanted to share it with you all though, as I think it's a wonderful specimen!

Branching out into marine mammals? I was going to say that it doesn't look like your usual marine reptile fossil, but.... it actually does. :heartylaugh: 

Beautiful piece. The comparison pictures are really interesting. 

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I'm so excited! My fishies finally arrived! I ordered these two little guys on Boxing Day and they just came in. :wub: They are so incredibly beautiful. Both are from Poland, though I need to message the seller to see if they have a more precise location. Both are also from the Oligocene. 

First up is the Antigonia sp. A very tiny guy, measuring in at 18mm. He's absolutely gorgeous.

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Next up is the Argyropelecus cosmovicii. He's a bit bigger, measuring at 28mm. Check out that eye orbit! 

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4 minutes ago, thelivingdead531 said:

First up is the Antigonia sp.

Very cool. At first reminded me of a deep sea hatchetfish but it looks like this fossil is from the boarfish family:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproidae

 

6 minutes ago, thelivingdead531 said:

Next up is the Argyropelecus cosmovicii.

And this one, not surprisingly, IS INDEED a deep sea hatchetfish:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyropelecus

 

Two really unusual fish fossils that I'd not heard of before. Great addition to your collection.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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8 minutes ago, digit said:

Very cool. At first reminded me of a deep sea hatchetfish but it looks like this fossil is from the boarfish family:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproidae

 

And this one, not surprisingly, IS INDEED a deep sea hatchetfish:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyropelecus

 

Two really unusual fish fossils that I'd not heard of before. Great addition to your collection.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

Thank you, they are quite fascinating. I had done some research before purchasing them to get an idea of how they looked in life. I wanted to branch out a bit and avoid more fish from typical locations (Green River, Crato formations, etc). I am very happy with these little guys. I hope to get more unusual ones in the future. 

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Very very nice.  I went fishing yesterday but only caught extant blue fish and king fish. Enjoy these beautiful specimens.

 

Tom

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57 minutes ago, TOM BUCKLEY said:

Very very nice.  I went fishing yesterday but only caught extant blue fish and king fish. Enjoy these beautiful specimens.

 

Tom

I just looked up a king fish, now that would make an impressive fossil!

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14 hours ago, thelivingdead531 said:

I just looked up a king fish, now that would make an impressive fossil!

I think what you found on the internet was a King Mackerel.......a truly impressive fish. What I was referring to was a Gulf Kingfish. Much less impressive, but very tasty. Also called a Whiting down here in Florida.

Tom

 

 

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3 hours ago, TOM BUCKLEY said:

I think what you found on the internet was a King Mackerel.......a truly impressive fish. What I was referring to was a Gulf Kingfish. Much less impressive, but very tasty. Also called a Whiting down here in Florida.

Tom

 

 

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Ha! Yeah, that is definitely not the fish that Google showed me. Still, I think this would make a nice fossil one day. As much as I love fish as fossils, I don’t eat them. I can’t stand the taste of fish, or most seafood. 

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2 hours ago, thelivingdead531 said:

Ha! Yeah, that is definitely not the fish that Google showed me. Still, I think this would make a nice fossil one day. As much as I love fish as fossils, I don’t eat them. I can’t stand the taste of fish, or most seafood. 

I love seafood,  just not the raw stuff. I definitely stay away from oysters and the like "on the halfshell" and all sushi. :Cry:

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16 hours ago, thelivingdead531 said:

As much as I love fish as fossils, I don’t eat them. I can’t stand the taste of fish, or most seafood. 

 

Hahaha! Funny that! Someone else who's into marine/aquatic vertebrates but doesn't actually like fish or seafood. At least I'm not alone in that then! :BigSmile:

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On 1/15/2022 at 9:29 PM, thelivingdead531 said:

Antigonia sp

Both these fish are stunning, wow. I was not really into fish fossils until I joined the forum ( I think Tim and of course Mike and his fish paintings are to be blamed ) . 
 

As we been tacking a pole (haha) I prefer sushi to cooked fish.

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7 hours ago, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said:

 

Hahaha! Funny that! Someone else who's into marine/aquatic vertebrates but doesn't actually like fish or seafood. At least I'm not alone in that then! :BigSmile:

I never thought I’d find someone else who is in the same boat (pun intended) I am. :D I love sharks, octopuses, all sorts of marine creatures, but I’m scared of going in the ocean or on a boat. And I have a mild phobia of crustaceans, I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about them. 
 

5 hours ago, Bobby Rico said:

Both these fish are stunning, wow. I was not really into fish fossils until I joined the forum ( I think Tim and of course Mike and his fish paintings are to be blamed ) . 
 

As we been tacking a pole (haha) I prefer sushi to cooked fish.

I wasn’t particularly interested in fish at first either. Over time, the more I collected, the more I started to focus on them. They are now in my top 2 main interests. 
I’ve wanted to like sushi, but I just can’t do it. 

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40 minutes ago, thelivingdead531 said:

I never thought I’d find someone else who is in the same boat (pun intended) I am. :D I love sharks, octopuses, all sorts of marine creatures, but I’m scared of going in the ocean or on a boat. And I have a mild phobia of crustaceans, I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about them

Ooohhhh, now I know what to get you if I get picked as you secret Santa this year :heartylaugh:

 

@pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odonTry fresh halibut. Almost no strong flavor of its own. Takes on flavors you add very well. Come over and I'll fix you a great meal (have about 200 lbs in my freezer from last summers fishing).

 

Back to subject lol: @thelivingdead531 I LOVE those fish. So much different then what you usually see. Not a fish fossil collecter but I'd keep those!

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12 minutes ago, Sjfriend said:

Ooohhhh, now I know what to get you if I get picked as you secret Santa this year :heartylaugh:

 

Back to subject lol: @thelivingdead531 I LOVE those fish. So much different then what you usually see. Not a fish fossil collecter but I'd keep those!

:Horrified: My skin is crawling just thinking about a live crab. While I would still be grateful if you sent me a box of crabs or other crustaceans, this would be me passing out from the heebie jeebies. :default_faint:
 

Thank you, I think they are magnificent myself. I have quite a few of the very common fish, so I’m wanting to branch out to more “exotic” ones. 

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44 minutes ago, thelivingdead531 said:

I never thought I’d find someone else who is in the same boat (pun intended) I am. :D I love sharks, octopuses, all sorts of marine creatures, but I’m scared of going in the ocean or on a boat. And I have a mild phobia of crustaceans, I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about them.

 

It's not as bad for me, as I don't mind being in a boat (as long as I've got sun cover - I get burned really easily). But I don't enjoy the scent, touch or flavour of most fish and seafood, much to the annoyance of my wife, who loves eating fish and seafood. I guess it may be all the oiliness involved. In any case, it's always cause for heavy discussion whenever she gets a craving for it :P Oh, and I really don't like salt water either: it makes you sticky :whistle:

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7 hours ago, thelivingdead531 said:

I get the heebie jeebies

 

What is it ? :sick: ?

 

Coco

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1 hour ago, Coco said:

What is it ? :sick: ?

 

Coco

It’s a feeling of when your skin crawls or you shudder from revulsion or horror. People that are scared of spiders or other creepy crawlies tend to get these feelings. 

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17 hours ago, Sjfriend said:

@pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odonTry fresh halibut. Almost no strong flavor of its own. Takes on flavors you add very well. Come over and I'll fix you a great meal (have about 200 lbs in my freezer from last summers fishing).

 

I must've missed this one... Sorry!

Thanks for the invite, but it's not actually as bad as all that... Being Dutch and having been all but born in Greece (albeit to a mother who doesn't much enjoy fish herself), I do eat mussels (bit am picky about the preparation) and enjoy both octopus and squid; I don't mind fish fingers or deep fried breaded cod bits (with plenty of sauce); will eat scallop (in sauce) and salmon fried to a crunch; will eat the "meaty" predatory fishes like swordfish and tuna if fresh, good quality and I must; and, while on archaeological fieldwork in the Caribbean, have enjoyed both marinated chiton and strombus snail, as well as locally caught day-fresh but unidentified white fish grilled on an open fire in a small, remote Dominican village next to our excavation site, while holding our weekly celebration with the locals, who helped us on our project. It's just that, overall, I'd like to have as little to do with fish and seafood as possible :)

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A new bunch of shark teeth came in the mail today, including a large 3.75" Otodus auriculatus, a 2.17" and 2.13" Parotodus benedini, a 2.43" and 2.0" Carcharodon hastalis and a 2.08" Carcharodon carcharias...

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