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This is my round 2, of things i found, and helping me properly name and catalog them.

 

First picture, i think is some kind of coral?

2nd picture - Coral also maybe? kinda looks like little suction cup suckers?

3rd picture - Some kinda spiral shell?

4th picture - Another type of shell

5th picture - probally some type of clam shell, i was excited at first and thought it was a crab top shell.

6th picture - I find alot of these types, a shell of some kind?

7-8-9 - This one is weird, looks like some kind of shell, but then looks almost like it has teeth or little legs. Really want to know what this is? (Deer Lake, Pa.)

10th picture - I found this in a secret spot in St Clair, Pa., looks to me like a segment of a fossilized tree, its round, totally flat on top n bottom, and looks like striations lines in bark? if im right anyway knowing type of tree?

 

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps out, i'll just list round one and two for now, till i get some answers, and if i get anywhere with answers i will post some more, thanks all. Paul.

 

 

 

 

 

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The first one is a worn rugose coral with some nice septae.

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Can you please give some more indication as to the stratigraphy and location on the first ones?

1. Rugose coral

2. ??

3. Gastropod

4. Bivalve

5. Brachiopod

6. Cephalopod or Gastropod

7. 8. & 9. Partial Cephalopod or Brachiopod or Bivalve?

10. Geological?

 

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1. from Reinholds Pa., found hiking nearby Mountain.

2. to 9. is from Deer Lake, Pa. a well know fossil location.

10. is from St Clair, Pa. found at a nearby quarry, found with other plant fossils, mostly ferns.

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1. Rugose, or "horn"  coral as previously stated. 

2. Looks like a piece of pygidium from the trilobite Dipleura dekayi.

3. Gastropod, possibly Bembexia sulcomarginata

4. Bivalve, ... possibly Grammysia bisculata.

5. Brachiopod internal cast. Possibly Tropidoleptus sp. 

6. Bellephrontid Gastropod internal cast - possibly Ptomatis patulus.

7. Internal cast of brachiopod. 

8. Cast of plant branch or stem? Not sure. :unsure: 

 

The stuff from Deer Lake is from the Middle Devonian Mahantango Formation, part of the Hamilton Group. 

 

 

 

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I'm wondering if specimen 3 couldn't be Cyclonema. :headscratch:

 

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Thanks for all the help so far, heres what maybe so far.

1. Rugrose Coral

2. Still not sure

3. Bembexia Sulcomarginata or Cyclonema

4. Grammysia Bisculata or Grammysioidea Arcuata

5. Still not sure

6. Bellephrontid Gastropod, maybe Ptomatis Patulus

7. Some type of Brachiopod maybe

8. Still think some type of tree, heres a picture i found on net sure looks like my piece alot?

 

 

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What is the size of your piece? 

 

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1 hour ago, abyssunder said:

I'm wondering if specimen 3 couldn't be Cyclonema. :headscratch:

 

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I think the more compressed aspect to the OP's picture points more towards Bembexia, which is more common at the Deer Lake site. :)

 

 

I'm also pretty confident that # 2 is a piece of Dipleura dekayi. 

Compare to this one from New York - 

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The color is different, but the pustulose stippling looks the same, to my eye. 

 

One of the things lacking in the otherwise pretty good pictures, is something for scale. 

That can help determine things a bit more accurately.

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OK, i think you may be right with Dipleura dekayi, if you look at my first picture, theres kind of a ridge line, which could be where the thorax meets the tail. (line). and i added a picture with a penny for size comparision which does show could be the right size as the trilobite would be.

 

second is a picture with a penny showing size of  fossil i think could be a tree trunk segment. which i believe is like size of a birch tree pretty much, as you can see from this top view its pretty round, and rock does not grow round like that.

 

3rd i just threw this one on to show, even though its just boring shells, i like how many shells were in this one piece. we were driving near deer lake one day going to the nearby flea market and they were doing all new road construction around deer lake, and they were tearing up all the road near there, exposing all new fresh areas and i stopped for a quick look and grabbed this piece.

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On the shell hash plate, the brachiopods are Tropidoleptus sp.

With no detail to the plant, I think the best you can say is it is a plant cast - maybe a branch, or thin trunk. 

Don't think you can pin it down any further than that.

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For 8. try to polish the surface of the transverse section. May help in the ID.

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ok, but what are these things? why do they look like like teeth or legs? or are they just remnents of where the hinge was?

 

 

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Impossible to say without removing it from the surrounding matrix. :unsure: 

Your picture is just too blurry to tell. 

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