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Bilmor

Hi, I bought this claw in Rissani, Morocco  for a week ago. It was found in the Kem-Kem area. But I'm not sure the species it belong to. Any suggestions?

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Troodon

Well my guess it's supposed to be a Spinosaurid hand claw.  I'm very suspicious of composites or complete fabrication etc with claws like this.  Can you post pictures of the other side and some close up of claw.   The Moroccan dinosaur community are real artisans.

 

Forgot, welcome to the forum 

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Bilmor

Hi again, here`s more pictures of the claw. I guess it som repair and glues in it. Can someone give a review ? or advice?

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LordTrilobite

I think the middle might be genuine. But I think the base is completely constructed with some bone material in it here and there. It looks like the tip migth also have been restored. Hard to tell from the photos though.

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RJB

Im no dino claw expert, but the second I looked at this I thought it didn't look right.  I believe LordTrilobite is spot on with his assessment.  

 

RB

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Susan from PA

I'm not an expert on these claws either, and determining what is real and what isn't on these claws can be tricky sometimes.  I have to agree with LordTrilobite.  I think the middle portion of the ventral surface is real, the area that is a lighter white in color.  The rest of it looks highly suspect.     We can ask  @Troodon

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fifbrindacier

I'm like Troodon, the moroccan dinosaur community are real artisans. Could you show us a photo of its base surface ?

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Peat Burns

Try exposing it to UV light.  This can help determine parts that are authentic vs parts that are fabricated.

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Bilmor

Thanks or all answers. Here`s some more pictures from both sides. I try uv-light and it glow like other bone material I have, for example a big vertebra (100 % real) I have. I think I`m not sure what I shall looking for ?

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Bilmor

...and I`m 100 percent sure it is repaired and glued here and there. Agree with you Troodon that the shape is little strange. The seller/dealer thought is was a birdlike claw? 

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Troodon

The biggest issues with vertebrae is that the Moroccan like to composite the processes on it.  Post it let's take a look.

 

I hate to ask for more pictures but can you take a closeup of this

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Bilmor

Of course I send pictures, I`m very happy for advise and help. Here`s two more of the tip

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Bilmor

...and I have a question about this trilobite. It`s for sure real (buyer from a very good taxidermist i Morocco) As you see it`s little translucent (like some russians) and you can see a our through it. But can someone tell me what kind of species it is? or family?

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Troodon

Thank you.  I don't see any evidence of compositing on the tip just repair with glue and matrix.  The claw is odd, not prepped very well, a few repairs but except for the back end may be good.  

 

Not a bug expert.  Suggest you post it as a separate topic to get all the Trilobite experts looking.  If you have a specific locality with size it would be helpful.

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Bilmor

Thank you Troodon. I have a good friend with name Jørn Hurum (dinosaur expert at Natural History Museum, University of Oslo) Will vist him tomorrow. Her said the same as you from the pictures! He thought (like you) at this was from a spinosaurid species. Thank you all for answers and advises. 

 

best wishes

Morten Bilet

Norway

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Troodon

Glad all of the members on the forum can help and provide input to your claw.  Your friend Jørn Hurum will be able to have a very close look at the claw and provide an experts view on what was done to it.  Would love some feedback so we can educate ourselves.

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Bilmor

Yes I will give feedback as soon  I know something about this claw.

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fifbrindacier

I would say a kind of proetoidea, but i know very little about trilobites. We should wait @piranha or @FossilDAWG.

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