ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Hello everone, Thank you in advance. This is my first post so bear with me if I don't give the proper information needed or if my photos aren't sufficient. I think this is a fossil? Possibly some sort of fish? Found on the Los Angeles coast in San Pedro area of california. I'm posting two photos but because of the size I couldn't post the rest. I will try to post more in another post on this thread. Thank you again, Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Archie Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Welcome to the forum This is a huge fish great find! The head and tail are missing what you have is a section of the spine and a pectoral fin. Someone more knowledgeable on the geology of the area will be able to give you more information on ID. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Archie said: Welcome to the forum This is a huge fish great find! The head and tail are missing what you have is a section of the spine and a pectoral fin. Someone more knowledgeable on the geology of the area will be able to give you more information on ID. Regards, Thank you so much Archie, We found it last week and got together a bunch of friends and went back to get it. It was so big I wasn't sure we would even be able to, but I have a friend that always makes the impossible happen! I still can't believe I found this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Congratulations! That is very impressive. Please don't tell me this is your first fossil find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Just now, westcoast said: Congratulations! That is very impressive. Please don't tell me this is your first fossil find... Hahaha... Sorry to tell you yes this is my first fossil find. My friend found a smaller one two weeks ago and we keep going back. We had originally gone to get shells and crystals and this guy just jumped out at me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhw Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Very nice find! Definitely looks like a large fish of some sort. Maybe the fin of a second specimen above it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Welcome to the Fossil Forum, and to fossil hunting! You have a great start! Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Although it's old, this document might help narrowing down the possibilities. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, abyssunder said: Although it's old, this document might help narrowing down the possibilities. Yay! Thank you so much I will check this out for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, ynot said: Welcome to the Fossil Forum, and to fossil hunting! You have a great start! Tony Thank you so much Tony!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Welcome to the Forum. Fantastic find! Not sure you can get a positive ID, due to the fact that the head and tail are missing. Also missing are anal and dorsal fins. The positioning of the vertebrae leads me to believe that the small fin that is visible is probably a pelvic fin, so the pectorals are missing as well. Very hard to ID unless an expert in California fossil fishes is contacted. Regards, EDIT: maybe @oilshale will have some ideas... Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 40 minutes ago, jhw said: Very nice find! Definitely looks like a large fish of some sort. Maybe the fin of a second specimen above it? I think you may be right, the little fin is in such a weird position? So I don't know. I have only started this journey so appreciate your input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Just to complete, fishes like the large ones Alisea grandis, Ozymandias gilberti were found in the Miocene sediments of San Pedro, also a delphinid Phocaena occidua vertebral column in the sandstone shale. Urobatis halleri (dasiatid), Carcharodon arnoldi (Lamnidae) were recorded from the Pliocene rocks. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhw Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I used to live in San Pedro sometime back and did quite a bit of beach combing, fossil and relic hunting. It's a fairly fossiliferous area, but the best I've ever found were assorted mollusks. So once again, great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Fossildude19 said: Welcome to the Forum. Fantastic find! Not sure you can get a positive ID, due to the fact that the head and tail are missing. Also missing are anal and dorsal fins. The positioning of the vertebrae leads me to believe that the small fin that is visible is probably a pelvic fin, so the pectorals are missing as well. Very hard to ID unless an expert in California fossil fishes is contacted. Regards, Thank you so much. I still can't believe I found it.. I wish there was a way to know how old it is. I may try to go back to the area and search for more sections? This was found in a sort of land slide area below a cliff. With all the rains we have been having recently a lot of treasure have been unearthed... any tips on searching the area surrounding where it was? Thank you again Tim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Hey @Boesse can You help with this one? Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Welcome to the forum and congratulations on a great first find! I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, jhw said: I used to live in San Pedro sometime back and did quite a bit of beach combing, fossil and relic hunting. It's a fairly fossiliferous area, but the best I've ever found were assorted mollusks. So once again, great find! It is so fossiliferous attached is the first one we found. The rains have definitely unearthed many things, which is exciting that's why we keep going back. We actually found a really amazing spot! This first one was found about five miles from the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, abyssunder said: Just to complete, fishes like the large ones Alisea grandis, Ozymandias gilberti were found in the Miocene sediments of San Pedro, also a delphinid Phocaena occidua vertebral column in the sandstone shale. Urobatis halleri (dasiatid), Carcharodon arnoldi (Lamnidae) were recorded from the Pliocene rocks. Thank you so much, for your help this is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Darktooth said: Welcome to the forum and congratulations on a great first find! Thank you! I'm loving it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Very cool! But you have to find some with heads, or tails, preferably both! I would just search where you found this, maybe a bit further up or down the slope. As far as age - these are probably, as Abyssunder remarked, Miocene or Pliocene in age. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhw Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Yeah, the infrequent heavy rains definitely loosen up stuff in the the canyons and cliffs around here. Hmm, maybe time to make a little trip up to Old Topanga! I'd definitely keep working that spot you're on, and please post any other finds. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Very cool! But you have to find some with heads, or tails, preferably both! I would just search where you found this, maybe a bit further up or down the slope. As far as age - these are probably, as Abyssunder remarked, Miocene or Pliocene in age. Regards, HAHAHAHA! I will find one with a head and or tail just for you! We're definitely going to just keep revisiting this area it is a goldmine of fossils and crystals etc... Plus it's beautiful out there right now! thank you so much for all your help and advice! -Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADURAN Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, jhw said: Yeah, the infrequent heavy rains definitely loosen up stuff in the the canyons and cliffs around here. Hmm, maybe time to make a little trip up to Old Topanga! I'd definitely keep working that spot you're on, and please post any other finds. Good luck! Yes the hunting is really good now! You should for sure venture out again! Thank you so much and good luck to you! -Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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