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Hello,

 

I recently found this object washed up on a beach in northern California. 

 

We're wondering if anyone recognizes it, or could tell us what type of animal it might be from?

 

Thanks so much for any suggestions,

 

Jackie Sones

Bodega Bay, CA

 

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Welcome to the Forum. :) 

 

A few more views, maybe?

Top, bottom, sides?

My initial impression is shell or coral of some sort. 

More pics will help us figure it out. ;) 

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Are you sure it is a fossil? I'm wondering if this is a current day calcareous tube worm. They are attached to subtidal rocks and fairly common in your area. They often get broken off during winter storms and the calcareous tube washes up on the beach (minus the worm).  Google "calcareous tube worm" and look at some of the images to see if they match up.

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Hi!

 

Thanks so much for taking a look.  I'm pretty sure it's a fossil -- based on the texture, weight, and the material.  (Sorry for the lack of proper terminology -- I work with live animals!)  I'll post photos of the internal structure (visible from the wider open end) tonight.

 

For now, here's a scan of two different sides of the object --

 

More soon!

 

Jackie

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Here are two more pictures...

 

(1) the inside edge at the wider, open end (what a cool pattern!)

(2) the outside at the narrow end

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Nice find! Definitely looks like some kind of fossil coral. There are Tertiary rocks exposed along the coast near Bodega Bay, such as at Doran Beach, and Mesozoic rocks exposed a little further north, so you never know what you might find on the beach in that area.

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That internal pattern does not look like what I would expect to see in a solitary or horn coral. 

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Very strange.  No septa in the polygonal structures on the concave end view.  There is some apparent horizontal banding though in long section:

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And there are traces of the polygonal patterns on the pointed end as well:

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I am stumped.  Thoughts have included cartilage, silicified bone, and silicified plant pith...

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Head scratching. Could it be a strangely preserved partial section of a silicified colonial coral corallium?

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Doesn't strike me as having a colonial look. The construction seems more that of bone, but obviously not quite the norm.

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Notice the shapes in the lower left of the last photo. They resemble those in the center of the end. This would seem like evidence to back up Tony's plant idea. 

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I'm leaning more toward plant, but that internal structure is quite fascinating - almost looks like horn tubules. :popcorn:

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The pattern of the left side visible in the last picture, the alternating dark and light strips, reminds me of Hunter-Schreger bands of tooth enamel.

 

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3 minutes ago, ynot said:

Duh, it is a walrus tooth root!

We had another one just a few weeks ago.

I was actually thinking the same thing, but I couldn't find any comparative images for the internal structure. Is this a "bam" ID for Ynot?

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I think Tony might have it. 

 

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Its great when somebody solves the puzzle! Are those polygonal structures typical for walrus tooth?

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9 minutes ago, westcoast said:

Its great when somebody solves the puzzle! Are those polygonal structures typical for walrus tooth?

 

Tusk, not tooth. ;) 

It appears so.   @Boesse

 

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