Shellseeker Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I went out yesterday and really got a LOT of exercise with the water so low and the distance to my hunting location a long ways. I was rewarded by the normal Peace River experience -- lots of fossils in the sieve. Most of what I wanted confirmation on falls into the "I think it is a Vert Category", I am hoping they are easily identifiable, and will add other views or specific size details as required. Thanks for any/all suggestions and comments. By the way I added a non_vert at the end -- a Horse tooth lower that may be from an early version of Equus or may not.. Vert #1: Vert #2 Vert #3 Vert #4 I am not positive that this is anything beyond bone, but the texture seems to be vert or jaw like: The horse tooth: I just could not find Harry's photo picture of this one. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 A photo of everything I kept yesterday, followed by my best find (on the right of the two teeth both found in this spot.) The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Such an underachiever, lol. What a great haul! There are some teeth here I'd love to see closeups of. 1 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoMike Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Great assortment of finds, but those 3-toed horse teeth really steal the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Would make My day to find half as much! Nice haul! Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Maybe this topic helps for the teeth: " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBOB Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Nice finds as always! Is that piece of jaw with the single tooth in it from a gator? Also the lower right corner next to the glypto scutes, it that a horn scute from the glypto tail? If those are what I think they are, they are my 2 favs. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I'm sure you did work hard to produce all those fossils! #3 is interesting . . . I don't recognize it, but it reminds me of a chevron bone. #4 is the butt-end of a sub-adult mammoth tooth. The equus lower tooth is a left m1 or m2 (they often cannot be distinguished). 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said: #4 is the butt-end of a sub-adult mammoth tooth. I would agree! " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 13 hours ago, Harry Pristis said: I'm sure you did work hard to produce all those fossils! #3 is interesting . . . I don't recognize it, but it reminds me of a chevron bone. #4 is the butt-end of a sub-adult mammoth tooth. The equus lower tooth is a left m1 or m2 (they often cannot be distinguished). Harry, Thanks for the ID on the equus tooth; I think #2 may be dolphin; #3 maybe broken Atlas, Axis, or even mandible. I am out of my league - butt-end?? I almost threw it away!! Do you have any other photos that might compare? 15 hours ago, CBOB said: Nice finds as always! Is that piece of jaw with the single tooth in it from a gator? Also the lower right corner next to the glypto scutes, it that a horn scute from the glypto tail? If those are what I think they are, they are my 2 favs. Good job! I confess -- I stuck the tooth (which was found yesterday) into the 2 socket gator jaw because it fit! The exact corner fossil is a turtle footpad, but left of the Glypto osteoderm is tail scute of Armadillo (I think) Finally, not sure that they are the same, but these 2 small horse teeth were found 5 feet and more than 2 years apart. Sent to Hulbert last night. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 The one from your gallery (March 9th, 2015) with dimensions 49x15x11mm, tentatively identified as Nannipus westoni, looks identical to the left one from your actual post (March 9th, 2015 - dim. 49.5x15.4x14.5mm). your gallery " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Yes, I do have many "butt ends" of mammoth teeth here, most attached to more enamel plates. Here are two that were within easy reach: 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Whow! Those are beautiful! Just to see all of them closer... " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 10 hours ago, abyssunder said: The one from your gallery (March 9th, 2015) with dimensions 49x15x11mm, tentatively identified as Nannipus westoni, looks identical to the left one from your actual post (March 9th, 2015 - dim. 49.5x15.4x14.5mm). your gallery I am having some second thoughts... It seems to me that the two I am showing are very similar from March 2015 and March 2017, I also found this Nannippus Peninsulatus,, I am not sure that the tooth I labeled as N. westoni is actually Nannippus. If Richard Hulbert replies , then I may be sure... 9 hours ago, Harry Pristis said: Yes, I do have many "butt ends" of mammoth teeth here, most attached to more enamel plates. Here are two that were within easy reach: GREAT pictures , Harry . Thanks , I now see clearly .. Mine is only 3 inches long and I will definitely label and keep it. Jack The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Number 4 looks like a process from a whale petrosal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Al Dente said: Number 4 looks like a process from a whale petrosal. Thank you, Al Dente. Hopefully @Boesse will chime in , and if a petrosal will identify the owner. For other watching this thread, I have a response from RIchard Hulbert Quote These are Nannippus peninsulatus uppers. The one with a pli cabillin could be a premolar (P3 or P4), which tend to have better developed pli cabillins than do molars. The very shallow hypoconal groove is the key feature to the species identification vs. C. emsliei, as is smaller size and more rounded protocone. Cheers, Richard C. Hulbert Jr. So, now I am sure about the one from 2015. I will change my Gallery entry from westoni to peninsulatus. I have a number of peninsulatus (3 uppers, 2 lowers) which fits their designation as the most populous Florida small horse in its time. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 @Boesse Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Yup, @Al Dente is right on the whale earbone - it's the posterior process of the petrotympanic (in baleen whales the posterior process of the bulla and periotic/petrosal fuse together to form this banana-shaped part) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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