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I went out yesterday and really got a LOT of exercise with the water so low and the distance to my hunting location a long ways. I was rewarded by the normal Peace River experience -- lots of fossils in the sieve. Most of what I wanted confirmation on falls into the "I think it is a Vert Category",  I am hoping they are easily identifiable, and will add other views or specific size details as required. Thanks for any/all suggestions and comments. By the way I added a non_vert at the end -- a Horse tooth lower that may be from an early version of Equus or may not..

Vert #1:

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Vert #2

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Vert #3

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Vert #4 I am not positive that this is anything beyond bone, but the texture seems to be vert or jaw like:

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The horse tooth: I just could not find Harry's photo picture  of this one.

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A photo of everything I kept yesterday, followed by my best find (on the right of the two teeth both found in this spot.)

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Such an underachiever, lol. What a great haul! There are some teeth here I'd love to see closeups of. :wub:

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Maybe this topic helps for the teeth: :)

 

" We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. "

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Nice finds as always!  Is that piece of jaw with the single tooth in it from a gator?  Also the lower right corner next to the glypto scutes, it that a horn scute from the glypto tail?  If those are what I think they are, they are my 2 favs.  Good job!

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I'm sure you did work hard to produce all those fossils!  #3 is interesting . . . I don't recognize it, but it reminds me of a chevron bone.

#4 is the butt-end of a sub-adult mammoth tooth.

The equus lower tooth is a left m1 or m2 (they often cannot be distinguished).

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6 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

#4 is the butt-end of a sub-adult mammoth tooth.

I would agree! :)

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13 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

I'm sure you did work hard to produce all those fossils!  #3 is interesting . . . I don't recognize it, but it reminds me of a chevron bone.

#4 is the butt-end of a sub-adult mammoth tooth.

The equus lower tooth is a left m1 or m2 (they often cannot be distinguished).

Harry,  Thanks for the ID on the equus tooth; I think #2 may be dolphin; #3 maybe broken Atlas, Axis, or even mandible. I am out of my league - butt-end?? I almost threw it away!! Do you have any other photos that might compare?

15 hours ago, CBOB said:

Nice finds as always!  Is that piece of jaw with the single tooth in it from a gator?  Also the lower right corner next to the glypto scutes, it that a horn scute from the glypto tail?  If those are what I think they are, they are my 2 favs.  Good job!

I confess -- I stuck the tooth (which was found yesterday) into the 2 socket gator jaw because it fit! The exact corner fossil is a turtle footpad, but left of the Glypto osteoderm is tail scute of Armadillo (I think)

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Finally, not sure that they are the same, but these 2 small horse teeth were found 5 feet and more than 2 years apart.  Sent to Hulbert last night.

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The one from your gallery (March 9th, 2015) with dimensions 49x15x11mm, tentatively identified as Nannipus westoni, looks identical to the left one from your actual post (March 9th, 2015 - dim. 49.5x15.4x14.5mm).

your gallery

 

 

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Yes, I do have many "butt ends" of mammoth teeth here, most attached to more enamel plates.  Here are two that were within easy reach:

 

 

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Whow! Those are beautiful! :)
Just to see all of them closer...

 

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10 hours ago, abyssunder said:

The one from your gallery (March 9th, 2015) with dimensions 49x15x11mm, tentatively identified as Nannipus westoni, looks identical to the left one from your actual post (March 9th, 2015 - dim. 49.5x15.4x14.5mm).

your gallery

 

I am having some second thoughts... It seems to me that the two I am showing are very similar from March 2015 and March 2017,  I also found this Nannippus Peninsulatus,,

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I am not sure that the tooth I labeled as N. westoni is actually Nannippus.  If Richard Hulbert replies , then I may be sure...

9 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

Yes, I do have many "butt ends" of mammoth teeth here, most attached to more enamel plates.  Here are two that were within easy reach:

GREAT pictures , Harry .  Thanks , I now see clearly .. Mine is only 3 inches long and I will definitely label and keep it.   Jack

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12 hours ago, Al Dente said:

Number 4 looks like a process from a whale petrosal.

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Thank you, Al Dente.  Hopefully @Boesse will chime in , and if a petrosal will identify the owner.

For other watching this thread, I have a response from RIchard Hulbert

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These are Nannippus peninsulatus uppers.  The one with a pli cabillin could be a premolar (P3 or P4), which tend to have better developed pli cabillins than do molars.  The very shallow hypoconal groove is the key feature to the species identification vs. C. emsliei, as is smaller size and more rounded protocone.

 

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Richard C. Hulbert Jr.

So, now I am sure about the one from 2015.  I will change my Gallery entry from westoni to peninsulatus. I have a number of peninsulatus (3 uppers, 2 lowers) which fits their designation as the most populous Florida small horse in its time.

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Yup, @Al Dente is right on the whale earbone - it's the posterior process of the petrotympanic (in baleen whales the posterior process of the bulla and periotic/petrosal fuse together to form this banana-shaped part)

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