Harry Pristis Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Shellseeker said: So I think your jaw has enough sockets for 2.5 teeth, Let's see what Harry says.. @Harry Pristis. I am prepared to be wrong... I don't know what to make of the edentulous jaw piece. The exterior surface looks crocodilian, yet the jaw seems too deep for 'gator. The alveolae don't seem right for crocodilian -- the space (diastema) between teeth seems too great. The two sockets on the right appear to be from a smaller, two-rooted tooth in a diagonal position in the bone. It reminds me of a Borophagus sp. jaw. Send some images to Hulbert. He may recognize it. 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Glad to see this is not an obvious chunk of jaw. I leaned toward gator based solely on the pitted surface texture of the flat surface which would seem to indicate gator. As you mentioned though the tooth sockets are confusing. The placement and size are not what I'd expect from gator jaw but I haven't seen a lot of this material and so I'm more than willing to be swayed. I'll drop a note to Dr. Hulbert to see if he has an opinion. Will let you all know when I find out anything more. Cheers. -Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Search4 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Whoa.... This is Brown Dog, Petey, Peach Pit Cheech. Always believed him to have originated from China but perhaps he's an OG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Peace river rat said: Not looking for the secret spot, but may I ask, was this well north of Brownville? North of Gardener? I sent a PM.. North of both Brownville and Gardner. Shellseeker 2 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 7:33 PM, addicted2fossils said: Check out that shark tooth stuck in the crack on the petrified log. A vegetarian shark, that is a first! 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Search4 said: Whoa.... This is Brown Dog, Petey, Peach Pit Cheech. Always believed him to have originated from China but perhaps he's an OG Petey is pretty impressive. He might be a suitable comparison to a borophagine dog. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Dr. Hulbert provided a timely response and here is his assessment: "I would agree that it is mammalian and likely carnivore. Borophagus is unlikely in the Peace River because of its age although not impossible. Without teeth not easy to ID; probably best to bring it to the collection some day to compare directly with jaws of different Pleistocene taxa." So the crocodilian-like texture of the surface of the mandible does seem to be a bit of a red herring and it may yet prove to be something more interesting. You can bet I'll be dragging this up with me next time I plan a visit to Gainesville. Thought I'd pass along this information for the forum to ruminate over in the meantime. Cheers. -Ken 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Oh yeah, awesome trip report Guys!! Sound like it was a great trip, wish I could have been there. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Digit, Fantastic response on the unknown Jaw.. I'll be very interested in learning the eventual ID. I returned to the site of the TFF trip today and in addition to a large number of small shark teeth, I found the following fossils. For all those who participated last Saturday, there is lots of opportunity left!!!! The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Nice finds Jack, that's a sweet little meg Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 2:05 PM, digit said: The last oddball mystery is this piece. At first it had the color and shading of a piece of phosphate matrix but it was too symmetrical and caught my eye in the sifting screen. The shape initially triggered the vertebrae pattern matching search image but it seems too flat and would be unlike any vert I'm aware of currently. I'm wondering if this might be some sort of skull element (possibly fish)? Any thoughts? This appears to be the fused parietals from a 'gator. 3 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Sweet finds, Jack! Shows the diversity of the Peace River. Sorry that you were otherwise occupied on the day of the big TFF meet-up, it was quite nice seeing everybody (and their finds). Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir.tommy.the.toad Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Hello all sorry for the long post for the trip. I have been busy. I must say this trip was one of the best by far. I found lots of interesting things. I also want to thank those of you that gave my kids the shark teeth there was a few of you. It went to a good cause when I got home that day from the trip the first thing my son said can we go fossil hunting tomorrow, he has been saying it like everyday now, he really loved the teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Sir.tommy.the.toad said: Hello all sorry for the long post for the trip. I have been busy. I must say this trip was one of the best by far. I found lots of interesting things. I also want to thank those of you that gave my kids the shark teeth there was a few of you. It went to a good cause when I got home that day from the trip the first thing my son said can we go fossil hunting tomorrow, he has been saying it like everyday now, he really loved the teeth. It was great getting to meet you all Jeremy, sorry I didn't get to say bye. And you can't beat getting the kids fired up about fossils, gets them out of the house and active. They would be hard pressed to be in a better area for hunting as well Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Sir.tommy.the.toad said: Hello all sorry for the long post for the trip. I have been busy. I must say this trip was one of the best by far. I found lots of interesting things. I also want to thank those of you that gave my kids the shark teeth there was a few of you. It went to a good cause when I got home that day from the trip the first thing my son said can we go fossil hunting tomorrow, he has been saying it like everyday now, he really loved the teeth. Nice! They're hooked now. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachbum Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 It looks like the Fossil Forum trip was a success. Great weather,good finds, unusual finds and a good time by all. We're waiting for the next trip to happen so we'll be able to join you. Happy hunting !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, beachbum said: It looks like the Fossil Forum trip was a success. Great weather,good finds, unusual finds and a good time by all. We're waiting for the next trip to happen so we'll be able to join you. Happy hunting !! Will keep you in the loop for the next one Jim Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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