resistance91 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Hello guys! I'm new here and my English not perfect as you see I found this fossils and i wonder what they are. It seems to me that first one looks like turtle shell but i have no idea about other one. Can anyone help me? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 The first one is a partial sand dollar and the second is a kind of echinoid. Both are very closely related but are not from animals with bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMP Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, resistance91 said: Hello guys! I'm new here and my English not perfect as you see I found this fossils and i wonder what they are. It seems to me that first one looks like turtle shell but i have no idea about other one. Can anyone help me? Thank you! Looks like some kind of echinoid, likely a sand dollar. There are associated shell bits that give it the allusion of being made of bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Welcome to TFF! Those are nice finds ! Congrats Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Welcome to the forum! I probably shouldn't admit this, but at first glance I thought the top photo was turtle. It wasn't until I read Carl's post that I noticed the ambulacral (pores?). Anyway, I marked them on your photos for future reference. If you see these double rows of dots, it usually means you have an echinoid of some sort. Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Nice assemblage - echinoids with pectinid bivalves. The location of the find, age of the sediments might help in the further investigations. If there is a Miocene realm, the domed one could be Echinocorys sp. , similar to this: " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitbat Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Hoşgeldiniz to The Fossil Forum, resistance91! Your English is a LOT better than my Turkish! Of course...I haven't spoken any Turkish in almost forty years! I agree with the others as far as the identification of your fossils is concerned. Nice finds! -Joe Illigitimati non carborundum Fruitbat's PDF Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resistance91 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 hours ago, abyssunder said: Nice assemblage - echinoids with pectinid bivalves. The location of the find, age of the sediments might help in the further investigations. If there is a Miocene realm, the domed one could be Echinocorys sp. , similar to this: The exact location is here: https://www.google.com.tr/maps/place/Özdek,+62800+Özdek+Köyü%2FMazgirt%2FTunceli/@39.2389196,39.2465614,6z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4071412e567b2f13:0x3493d840b8d4fc4c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resistance91 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 7 hours ago, GeschWhat said: Welcome to the forum! I probably shouldn't admit this, but at first glance I thought the top photo was turtle. It wasn't until I read Carl's post that I noticed the ambulacral (pores?). Anyway, I marked them on your photos for future reference. If you see these double rows of dots, it usually means you have an echinoid of some sort. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resistance91 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Fruitbat said: Hoşgeldiniz to The Fossil Forum, resistance91! Your English is a LOT better than my Turkish! Of course...I haven't spoken any Turkish in almost forty years! I agree with the others as far as the identification of your fossils is concerned. Nice finds! -Joe Thank you Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Here is for example a specimen from the Upper Cretaceous of Turkey, the holotype of Echinocorys edhemi in the collection of Natural History Museum : " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I have a Conoclypus feeling on the second pic. But not sure at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 just guessing that you mean Conoclypeus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Hi, On your 1st sea urchin, I put in yellow the ambulacra area, in blue the interambulacra area and in red one interambulacra plate. When you can see something like red / blue area on a fossil (with "zigzag"), you reasonably think that you have a sea urchin in front of you. Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 11 hours ago, doushantuo said: just guessing that you mean Conoclypeus? Yes, that was a typo, I meant Conoclypeus. regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Unfortunately the second specimen lacks the basal (bottom) side and it is partially eroded on the apical (top) side. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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