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Peace river teeth??


Thije

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Good day,

 

A few months ago I went fossil hunting at peace river in Florida. Here I found a few things that I've not been able to identify. These two are some of those finds. I've never seen anything like it so it's been really hard to identify. I'd love to hear if anyone can identify these finds.

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With kind regards,

Thije

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Hello

 

The first one looks like a barnacle.

 

The second one coral or some kind of bryozoan.

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Hmm m.  in the eye of the beholder.  The 1st is a chunk of a mammoth or horse tooth.  I would put odds at 50 Mammoth, 30 Horse, 20 all the rest.

The 2nd I would categorize as badly worn mud or rock concretion.

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I do believe the first is a worn barnacle as Viera suggested--the ones from the Peace river area are usually small volcano shaped guys and well worn with an inner plug that is raised a bit above the wider base but you can usually see some striations/internal structures of the various plates. I included a picture of a couple worn ones I found in DeSoto county as well as some less beat up larger types (probably entirely different species) from Sarasota county. 

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 As for the 2nd unknown..I was thinking rock/pebble also but I'm not very sure from these pictures...

 

Regards, Chris 

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Could the lower specimen in the photo be a distal phalanx from a small ungulate? It has two facets, and looks quite similar to a deer distal/terminal/3rd phalanx.

An online example here: 23015451346_12ca4d302e_b.jpg

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On 2017-5-19 at 8:31 AM, Plantguy said:

I do believe the first is a worn barnacle as Viera suggested--the ones from the Peace river area are usually small volcano shaped guys and well worn with an inner plug that is raised a bit above the wider base but you can usually see some striations/internal structures of the various plates. I included a picture of a couple worn ones I found in DeSoto county as well as some less beat up larger types (probably entirely different species) from Sarasota county. 

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 As for the 2nd unknown..I was thinking rock/pebble also but I'm not very sure from these pictures...

 

Regards, Chris 

I do believe the first one is indeed a barnacle.

 

24 minutes ago, Osteobyte said:

Could the lower specimen in the photo be a distal phalanx from a small ungulate? It has two facets, and looks quite similar to a deer distal/terminal/3rd phalanx.

An online example here: 23015451346_12ca4d302e_b.jpg

The has seen quite a of erosion, but the joint does seem to resemble that of the distal phalanx.

 

I do believe you've solved these ones, thank you :)

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I agree with osteobyte, the second object appears to be an ungual phalanx, probably from a lateral toe.  The size and shape suggests something like pig, rather than deer.

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Thanks for this size comment, Harry. Here is a re-post of an image with both sus and cervus neatly compared.

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You're welcome, osteobyte.  As useful as these illustrations sometimes are, the side toes I was suggesting are not illustrated therein.  The illustration is of a Sus phalanx III or IV, while the side toes are elements of phalanx II or V.

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6 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

I agree with osteobyte, the second object appears to be an ungual phalanx, probably from a lateral toe.  The size and shape suggests something like pig, rather than deer.

 

Hi Harry, thanks for the update/expertise. I enlarged the photo and now see what you are both seeing/describing. Glad you were able to provide the ID! Am I wrong in guessing that hole/opening on the side is some type of canal of some sort or something else? Is that diagnostic in anyway? Regards, Chris 

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Regards, Chris 

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