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Dear Guys,

 

I have found one very specific bone fragment which is very hard to me to identify, it is from Late Pleistocene sand layers of Varena town, South Lithuania. 

The wider part of bone has very strange joint relief and I do not know which animal is this.

Please help with ID of this fossil.

 

Best Regards

Domas

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Hi, 

 

Looks like the end of a large limb bone but apart from that I have no idea what animal it could be from. It's large and Pleistocene so it could possibly be a horse or bison. But unfortunately the state the bone is in, being worn and damaged, makes saying anything other than a possibility difficult. 

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33 minutes ago, JohnBrewer said:

 

Thanks for the vote of confidence, John, but there's not enough of this femur remaining to offer even a low-confidence identification.

http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page

 

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I agree. It's a partial Radius revealing the proximal end. Try to compare with these drawings: :)

 

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excerpt from E. Schmid. 1972. Atlas of Animal Bones. For Prehistorians, Archaeologists and Quaternary Geologists. Elsevier, New York.

 

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Ya' know, radius was my first thought, too.  But as I studied the images, I realized that the bone end is not symmetrical enough to be a radius from any easily-identified taxon, perissodactyls and artiodactyls both.  Look again at those images, and compare with these line-drawings:

 

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http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page

 

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You know better than me, Harry, for sure, but I don't see the Fovea capitis and the Trochanter majus. Probably they are damaged.

 

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1 hour ago, abyssunder said:

You know better than me, Harry, for sure, but I don't see the Fovea capitis and the Trochanter majus. Probably they are damaged.

 

 

 

You are absolutely correct, abyssunder . . . Not about what I know, but about the diagnostic features being damaged.  The fact that we can't agree even on which bone this thing represents is testament to the degree of damage.

 

http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page

 

What seest thou else

In the dark backward and abysm of time?

---Shakespeare, The Tempest

 

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Thank you very much. :D I would think it is horse... :) 

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