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Possible dire wolf skull.


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IMG_20170525_114737.thumb.jpg.6c5d2b33d6ee97b086f966fc5ce6391d.jpgI found this wolf skull near the milk river in North Eastern Montana, please help me identify it.

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Very cool! Sorry I can't help with id. 

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Could you send some close up photos of the teeth and jaw region?

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To me looks like a direwolf has the carnivore molars and the general skull shape of a dire wolf, the dire wolf skull is the right one in the photo.

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Just thinking out loud.  I accept that it is wolf.  Those are carnassials and it looks canid. How does you differentiate Dire Wolf from a large male modern wolf. We have to determine level of fossilization and skull measurements.

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6 minutes ago, Shellseeker said:

Just thinking out loud.  I accept that it is wolf.  Those are carnassials and it looks canid. How does you differentiate Dire Wolf from a large male modern wolf. We have to determine level of fossilization and skull measurements.

Hi, I'm afraid I don't know enough about these things to tell you the level of fossilization. The skull measures about 11 3/4 inches long, what other measurements should I get. Thanks for the info, I'm new to this forum do please tell me if I'm posting any of this the wrong way.

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You are doing fine.. Welcome to the forum.

You get the questions out and wait for experts to respond. It takes about 10000 years for fossilization to occur. and your find is in a great state of preservation.

Here are some of dire wolf fossils I kept photos, 2nd picture from Harry Pristis,

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This is my Dire Wolf Skull for comparison.  It has been verified and even had a paper written on it because of provenance.    I am leaning more Canis Lupus based on what I can see from the tooth pics.  A few more pics of the teeth up close would help though.  

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Without a comparison collection, the way to identify this wolf skull depends on measurements using a caliper.  You can start with this measure.

 

 

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1 hour ago, scarypickle said:

Here are more teeth pictures.

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Looks very much like @sseth's direwolf skull, in my opinion looks like Direwolf to me. Hopefully you get a positive ID from others too, good luck!

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6 hours ago, scarypickle said:

Hi, I'm afraid I don't know enough about these things to tell you the level of fossilization. The skull measures about 11 3/4 inches long, what other measurements should I get. Thanks for the info, I'm new to this forum do please tell me if I'm posting any of this the wrong way.

 

Scarypickle, I just want to be sure you understand. There is a difference between Dire Wolf teeth and modern male wolf teeth. Dire wolf teeth are larger.  The differences are small but consistent. You need to measure the lengths of the chewing surface for the teeth in your skull. Please follow HarryPristis advice.

 

 

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The p4 on this wolf is 25.4 mm long, I believe Its probably from a modern wolf.

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