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3 UFOs amongst the Carcharias teeth


Ludwigia

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I mentioned in an earlier topic that I'd discovered a little site in the Miocene Burgidalian where you can scratch small Carcharias teeth out of a sandy cemented gravel-like conglomerate. I was back there again today and found these:

 

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The largest one without the root is 15mm. long.

 

There were however 3 objects amongst them which I don't really recognize, although I'm thinking that the last 2 may be drum fish teeth. Anyway, I'm hoping that one of you fish experts here in the Forum might recognize them and can point me in the right direction. I'm not even sure if this first one, of which I've made 5 photos, top, bottom and 3 different side views, is even from a fish. It measures 11x6x4mm.

 

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The next one is 5mm. long.

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And finally the 3rd one has a diameter of just 2mm.

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All of the photos were taken under the microscope. Thanks in advance for your help and advice.

 

 

Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger

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The first unknown is from a mammal, ... probably horse? 

Wait for a few other opinions on that one.

 

The second and third are crusher teeth from a fish mouth plate. 

They could be from the pycnodont, Anomaeodus phasolus.

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1 minute ago, Fossildude19 said:

The first unknown is from a mammal, ... probably horse? 

Wait for a few other opinions on that one.

 

The second and third are crusher teeth from a fish mouth plate. 

They could be from the pycnodont, Anomaeodus phasolus.

Thanks Tim. I had to go back and edit, since I typed cm. on that first tooth instead of mm., which I figure would rule out horse. I don't think they came that small, even back then :P

 

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2 minutes ago, Ludwigia said:

Thanks Tim. I had to go back and edit, since I typed cm. on that first tooth instead of mm., which I figure would rule out horse. I don't think they came that small, even back then :P

 

Ah, ... OK. Well it is mammalian, I can tell you that. :);) 

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9 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

 

Ah, ... OK. Well it is mammalian, I can tell you that. :);) 

 

Thanks. That's what I was thinking too. Maybe @Harry Pristis can come to the rescue?

 

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4 minutes ago, Ludwigia said:

 

Thanks. That's what I was thinking too. Maybe @Harry Pristis can come to the rescue?

 

That artiodactyl tooth has been stream-polished into a little gem, hasn't it!  Search for small antelope/deer-like critters of the German Burdigalian.

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1 hour ago, Harry Pristis said:

 

That artiodactyl tooth has been stream-polished into a little gem, hasn't it!  Search for small antelope/deer-like critters of the German Burdigalian.

Thanks very much!! :D

 

I think I've found what I'm looking for here. Lagomeryx appears to be the closest.  

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