FossilDudeCO Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I recently acquired quite a few boxes of fossils from an old collection. Lots of fun stuff from all over! I need some help identifying some of the holzmaden ammonites. I want to try myself first, so I will skip pictures for now, but a paper in English would be really nice! Maybe.... @doushantuo @Fruitbat Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 @Ludwigia 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Well ,I've got just the thing for you,but that's the way of the world:it's in German,and too big to post Columns(translated):species,sutureline,cross-section,(remarks on)ornamentation,biometrics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitbat Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Wow! There is not much out there on ammonites from the Holzmaden Shale or Posidonia Shale...at least not in English! I'll keep looking! -Joe 1 Illigitimati non carborundum Fruitbat's PDF Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Fruitbat said: Wow! There is not much out there on ammonites from the Holzmaden Shale or Posidonia Shale...at least not in English! I'll keep looking! -Joe That's probably because the ammonites are paper thin, all relatively common and for those reasons probably not worth a scientific paper. Dactylioceras, Harpoceras, Hildoceras and Lytoceras are the more common ones which you often see worked into clocks or wall plaques. Just click on the photos in this link .The book that Doushantuo is refering to is the German "bible" on Middle Jurassic ammonites from Rudolf Schlegelmilch, "Die Ammoniten des Süddeutschen Doggers". 2 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitbat Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Makes perfect sense to me! Now...I think we need to describe a few more genera. Then we could have Harpoceras, Chicoceras, Grouchoceras, Gummoceras and Zeppoceras! -Joe 1 Illigitimati non carborundum Fruitbat's PDF Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 They may be paper thin, but still purdy dang cool. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Fruitbat said: Makes perfect sense to me! Now...I think we need to describe a few more genera. Then we could have Harpoceras, Chicoceras, Grouchoceras, Gummoceras and Zeppoceras! -Joe Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Shoo! I am relieved! I thought maybe my research skills were worse than I thought! Thanks @doushantuo @FruitbatAnd @Ludwigia Big help I will learn enough German to give my new treasures names, then post pics to see if you all agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 hours ago, FossilDudeCO said: Shoo! I am relieved! I thought maybe my research skills were worse than I thought! Thanks @doushantuo @FruitbatAnd @Ludwigia Big help I will learn enough German to give my new treasures names, then post pics to see if you all agree!! Actually all you need to know is a bit of Latin 2 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey P Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I for one am anxious to see the pics. Good luck with the IDing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Ok here we go! First a picture of most of the plates. I had 33 plates total. I just randomly grabbed a majority of them. I am EXTREMELY happy with this purchase. it came out to $1.68US per piece of shale. Now let's try to ID some! Dactylioceras siemensi Lytoceras trautscholdi Eleganticeras elegantum .....................I have no idea what that is I circled in RED. I just noticed it in the pictures. I am thinking Dactylioceras siemensi and Lytoceras trautscholdi @Ludwigia @Fruitbat @JohnBrewer @doushantuo @RJB @Jeffrey P Lets see how I did @aerogrower I can't ID the strange cube in my photos though What is the name of it for my ID tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Oh and if the ID's need to be fixed give me a shout! I would be curious to know if I got any rare ones in the bunch? The one with the repaired crack is staying with my collection for sure as it is the only one that looks like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 hours ago, FossilDudeCO said: Oh and if the ID's need to be fixed give me a shout! I would be curious to know if I got any rare ones in the bunch? You would need to substitute the names Dactylioceras commune for D.siemensi, and Harpoceras falsifer for both Lytoceras trautscholdi and Eleganticeras elegantum. Sorry to say this, but they are the most common ammonites by far there. Your mystery object is a Bositra buchi bivalve. It used to be called Posidonia bronni, for which the entire Formation was given its name. Unfortunately the original identification turned out to be false, so the name of the bivalve had to be changed. The name of the Formation, however, remains. 4 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Nice deal. The one piece of Holzmaden I once bought was both retouched (colored) and coated with something waxy. I like the one with the bivalve on it. (weakness for association pieces) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerogrower Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Nice score some, pretty looking plates! Cant beat the price either. No question about scale now is there? Don't really have a name for the cube, although @SailingAlongToo referred to it as his magic cube because of the nice finds he got his first trip out with it lol. Just glad you guys are putting them to good use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Genus: Cubus speices: inchi RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerogrower Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 48 minutes ago, RJB said: Genus: Cubus speices: inchi RB I like it @RJB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, RJB said: Genus: Cubus speices: inchi RB Family: Aerogroweridea 1 Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I agree with Roger that some are D. commune 1 John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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