flbug Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Hello! I've been lurking these forums for ages and made this account just to see if you all can figure this one out. I've found this tooth many years ago when I was a kid off of Apollo Beach, Florida. I think the beach is actually closed now, but of the few teeth I have from there this one always stood out. I've only got this one picture, as I've recently moved and the little bugger has been packed away in storage. I found this pic again on my laptop and my curiosity about it was peaked once more. I'm only a novice collector but I'm thinking it's a disfigured bull shark tooth? It's about the size of a quarter and very bent in places, and the blade is very flat as if it's been compressed. Any ideas on it would be helpful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Welcome to TFF! What is the size of this tooth. It does look like a pathologic (deformed) tooth. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flbug Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Thanks! It's just shy the size of a quarter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I think it might be a megalodon, but it would help if We could see the other side. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flbug Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Okay thanks! I can try to dig it out of the box it's in this weekend and see if that helps. Edited June 2, 2017 by flbug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I think your original assumption was correct, it looks like a deformed bullshark tooth or some similar Carcharhinus species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I would love to see a pic of the other side of this tooth, but right now I tend to agree with AlDente that it is a pathological (deformed) bull or some Carcharhinus species. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Brightened cropped and enlarged a bit. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I agree with the others for pathological bull/dusky. But this part here is really weird for me. Does anyone know why/how the root deformed like this? I've never seen anything like it before... Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History Hunter02 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Max-fossils said: I agree with the others for pathological bull/dusky. But this part here is really weird for me. Does anyone know why/how the root deformed like this? I've never seen anything like it before... Could it be chipped and not deformed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, History Hunter02 said: Could it be chipped and not deformed... It is both. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil-Hound Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 This is not of the whaler or bull family of shark as those teeth have a deeper and finer tip to them. What you have could actually be a crow shark tooth of the order Lamniformes. The exact species is Squalicorax Pristodontus. The only reason I say that is because from what I have seen juvenile C. megalodon teeth tend to have a much wider enamel base and a shorter tip. This could still be a C. megalodon but in my inexperienced, eyeballing opinion it appears that you have a crow shark tooth. Here's a reference sheet: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/272645880_fig5_Figure-5-Squalicorax-kaupi-and-Squalicorax-pristodontus-functional-teeth-lingual-and Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fossil-Hound said: What you have could actually be a crow shark tooth of the order Lamniformes. I believe that crow shark is a cretaceous shark and the op's tooth is from "found this tooth many years ago when I was a kid off of Apollo Beach, Florida". No cretaceous deposits in Florida. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil-Hound Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 @ynot a lot could of happened between now and when crows went extinct in the late cretaceous, but based on that fact then it would seem more feasible that this is a C. megalodon. Good attention to detail. Now I'm beginning to question the origin of Lamniformes and what the first Lamniforme was. Perhaps now I'm even questioning the origin of sharks from the Silurian. See: https://www.sharksider.com/timeline-shark-evolution/ Another interesting self-discovery tonight: C. megalodon could have possibly evolved from the Otodontidae family. Here are some very tiny C. megalodon for reference: Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 12 hours ago, History Hunter02 said: Could it be chipped and not deformed... 10 hours ago, ynot said: It is both. I did realize it was slightly chipped But if you look at it, and try to imagine how it would have looked like not chipped, it would make a really weird shape. So thanks Tony for pointing out that it is indeed deformed. 5 hours ago, Fossil-Hound said: Another interesting self-discovery tonight: C. megalodon could have possibly evolved from the Otodontidae family. That's why it's called Otodus megalodon now Carcharodon/Carcharocles megalodon are old names. Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleoc Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Need to see the other side of the tooth to confirm ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoRon Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Carcharhinus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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