Max-fossils Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Hi all, I got those ammonites from @cheney416 in a blind trade. They come from Morocco, but the exact location is unknown. Apparently they are from the Bajocian stage of the Jurassic; 170 mya), but I can't find any Jurassic locations in Morocco containing ammonites... Does anyone know what species these are, and what location they could come from? Thanks, Max 2 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I have some of these, and numerous other species in the same preservation, described as being from the Bajocian of Morocco. I'd also be interested if anyone has any data. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I also have some of those!!! They appear to have iron oxide (Rust) or hematite in their mineralization. 3 "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Yes Ramon they are Hematite replaced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Here's a selection of these ammonites. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Aurelius said: I have some of these, and numerous other species in the same preservation, described as being from the Bajocian of Morocco. I'd also be interested if anyone has any data. 3 hours ago, Ramon said: I also have some of those!!! They appear to have iron oxide (Rust) or hematite in their mineralization. 3 hours ago, caldigger said: Yes Ramon they are Hematite replaced. So no one has a clue? Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Be patient, as not everyone has logged on in the last six hours. 1 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kane said: Be patient, as not everyone has logged on in the last six hours. I know, but with those people having similar ammonites I thought they'd know! But of course patience is always required Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I will ask my contact and let you know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 No, I haven't been able to find any information about these mysterious ammonites!!! But I'm really interested in knowing more about them!!! Anyways, I found these for sale on ebay. They have a card that says their species!!! 1 "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 It's clearly from the Phylloceratidae family!!! This one is mine!!! I guess we solved the mystery of what species yours are (and mine)!!! "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 11 hours ago, Ramon said: It's clearly from the Phylloceratidae family!!! This one is mine!!! I guess we solved the mystery of what species yours are (and mine)!!! Phylloceratidae does seem to match, but unfortunately that's only the family name Here is a list that I got from @cheney416 about the possible genuses: I already googled all of them, and so far for me the best matches are: Pleydellia, Dorsetensia, Holcophylloceras and Hypophylloceras. Hypophylloceras seems to be the one that looks the most like ours. But what I'd like to know the most is the location, so if anyone has that I'd be glad to hear it! Thanks for all the help though Ramon Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 Here is a geological map of Morocco (and Western Sahara); what we should be looking at is the blue. Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I agree, Hypophylloceras is the closest match!!! It's even in the photo I sent you earlier. About the location, the jurassic deposits in Morocco seem to be in the northern part of the country (Where the Atlas mountains are located). "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 58 minutes ago, Ramon said: I agree, Hypophylloceras is the closest match!!! It's even in the photo I sent you earlier. About the location, the jurassic deposits in Morocco seem to be in the northern part of the country (Where the Atlas mountains are located). Yeah. Let's hope that there is a known location there from where the ammonites could come from. Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil-Hound Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Love these little guys. Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fossil-Hound said: Love these little guys. They are indeed adorable! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 My source informs me that these are from Nzala, Morocco. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Aurelius said: My source informs me that these are from Nzala, Morocco. That's the info we needed! Thank you so much!!! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Glad I could help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 You can check that site. 2 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Most of the members of the Phylloceratidae family look very similar to each other. Without very careful examination we can identify the genus and maybe species. Right now I have mine labeled as Phylloceratidae indet. "Without fossils, no one would have ever dreamed that there were successive epochs in the formation of the earth" - Georges Cuvier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 8 hours ago, Aurelius said: Glad I could help! You sure did! 3 hours ago, fifbrindacier said: You can check that site. Déjà vu, très intéressant 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Ramon said: Most of the members of the Phylloceratidae family look very similar to each other. Without very careful examination we can identify the genus and maybe species. Right now I have mine labeled as Phylloceratidae indet. Correct. For me, Hypophylloceras fits the best. 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'm rather late jumping in on this, but I have this species, I think. It is indeed Bajocian, Middle Jurassic from the Nzala region of Morocco. Several species are found here preserved in haematite. But i think Hypophylloceras is a Cretaceous genus? I have these listed as Holcophylloceras mediterraneum and they are also found in Spain, Egypt and Italy and i think other places in the Med region. Here is one of mine for comparison. 2 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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