old bones Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 This the smallest armadillo osteoderm that I have found yet. Is it even possible to ID it to species? I found it today in Sacha's 'frog toe' matrix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 It appears to be a Dasypus osteoderm. It is so tiny, it may be only a guess as to which species it is. I have no idea what size osteoderms a newborn D. bellus has. I did measure a sample of adult D. novemcinctus (the smaller, modern armadillo), and your specimen is smaller than any in that sample. The modern species has been in the USA for less than a hundred years, but that's plenty of time to find it's way into the stream-bottom debris. A conservative label for this specimen might be "Dasypus sp." 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 check out this thread Sachs would have been collecting where I found these tiny osteoderms. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 On 6/11/2017 at 5:23 PM, Harry Pristis said: It appears to be a Dasypus osteoderm. It is so tiny, it may be only a guess as to which species it is. I have no idea what size osteoderms a newborn D. bellus has. I did measure a sample of adult D. novemcinctus (the smaller, modern armadillo), and your specimen is smaller than any in that sample. The modern species has been in the USA for less than a hundred years, but that's plenty of time to find it's way into the stream-bottom debris. A conservative label for this specimen might be "Dasypus sp." Thank you for looking into this, Harry. 23 hours ago, Shellseeker said: check out this thread Sachs would have been collecting where I found these tiny osteoderms. I remember this thread! Thanks for reminding me about it. I am going to re-photograph it on a penny. I think it is smaller that any of those in that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 56 minutes ago, old bones said: Thank you for looking into this, Harry. I remember this thread! Thanks for reminding me about it. I am going to re-photograph it on a penny. I think it is smaller that any of those in that thread. You might consider asking University of Florida museum of natural history fossil identification service to identify the species. @Sacha should provide actual find location. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacha Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 8 hours ago, Shellseeker said: You might consider asking University of Florida museum of natural history fossil identification service to identify the species. @Sacha should provide actual find location. I've given Richard the coordinates of this spot, so Julianna just has to reference The Merritt Island micro site. I don't know how to track it down, but a very similar osteoderm came from Rattlesnake creek matrix.....found by Marco Sr (I think) and sent back to me. I think I took a picture and started a thread. I'll try to track it down. The thread is from Feb. 15th, 2014, but I don't know how to link it into this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Shellseeker said: You might consider asking University of Florida museum of natural history fossil identification service to identify the species. @Sacha should provide actual find location. I will do that. Thanks 2 hours ago, Sacha said: I've given Richard the coordinates of this spot, so Julianna just has to reference The Merritt Island micro site. I don't know how to track it down, but a very similar osteoderm came from Rattlesnake creek matrix.....found by Marco Sr (I think) and sent back to me. I think I took a picture and started a thread. I'll try to track it down. The thread is from Feb. 15th, 2014, but I don't know how to link it into this thread. I'll send the pic to Dr. Hubert, John. I will find the thread you are referencing. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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