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I think this specimen is a Stegaster bouillei, am i right ?

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Fifi, the main things ! Place, age, size... ;)

 

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You're right, Coco, i indicated the place and the age in the tags but not its size : 8 cm of length, 7 cm of width.

I also precise that the layer is Maestritchian, near the KT limit.:)

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16 hours ago, JohnBrewer said:

The bottom image looks like my brain  :blink: How big is it?

So, you have a brain !:P

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17 hours ago, fifbrindacier said:

You're right, Coco, i indicated the place and the age in the tags but not its size : 8 cm of length, 7 cm of width.

I also precise that the layer is Maestritchian, near the KT limit.:)

Ah Fifi ! I often forget to have a look on tags... :wacko:

 

Coco

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29 minutes ago, Coco said:

Ah Fifi ! I often forget to have a look on tags... :wacko:

 

Coco

You're welcome, and not the only one who forget this, me first.

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I am wrong or you have already posted a subject to identify a sea urchin which came from the same place more or less one year ago ? I don't know the fauna of Bidard and I can't thus help you...

 

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Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
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Yes i had, but i need confirmation or infirmation.

According to http://paleotheque.fr, the site of @caterpillar, it must be a bouillei.

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Side

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Front

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1 hour ago, caterpillar said:

If you want to confirm the name of the species you must clean the breastplate. The species depends of the organization of the plates

You can see on my website

http://www.paleotheque.fr/echinodermes/fiche_genre.php?genre=Stegaster

Ok, thanks, i'll do it when i'll be back from my holidays. I will use water and a brush to put off the marl and i hope it won't break.

 

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Here is the older topic with Stegaster :

 

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4 hours ago, caterpillar said:

The best for this echinoid is KOH, but you can brush with vinegar

What is KOH ? But if it works with vinegar, i'll do it.

1 hour ago, abyssunder said:

Here is the older topic with Stegaster :

 

Yep, i remember it.:D

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12 hours ago, fifbrindacier said:

What is KOH ?

Hi there!

 

I'm assuming potassium hydroxide.  I'm just going by the chemical formula - "K" is the chemical symbol for "potassium", and "OH" is the chemical symbol for the polyatomic ion "hydroxide".  It's a strongly basic/alkaline compound, and it typically comes in flakes or pellets (that's how we get it for our classroom experiments).  I don't know if/how you can get it for household applications...

 

I hope that all is well in France!

 

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Thanks @Monica, i think i have somein pellets in my garage, if the brushing with vinegar i attented today (i couldn't wait for the end of my holidays), i'll try it.

I managed to put off the bit of marl but, as i expected, it broke, so i glued it back, here is the result for the moment :

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6 hours ago, fifbrindacier said:

Thanks @Monica, i think i have somein pellets in my garage, if the brushing with vinegar i attented today (i couldn't wait for the end of my holidays), i'll try it.

I managed to put off the bit of marl but, as i expected, it broke, so i glued it back, here is the result for the moment :

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You broke my brain....:o

 

if you don't have KOH, NaOH (sodium hydroxide) would work fine. Very basic, burns badly!

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Thanks for that counsel John.

And i'm not sorry for your brain.:megdance:

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"We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes."

 

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In the block in wich it was, i found some missing plates

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I washed the marl off them and now here is how it is

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"We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes."

 

In memory of Doren

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