Lone wolf Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Hello everyone I have an interesting bone or tooth I need help with. It's from Yazoo Clay (Late Eocene) Louisiana ,marine environment . It's 45.5 mm long and 8 mm across.Not sure what it is. any information would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Not a bone or tooth. Maybe a coprolite(?) @GeschWhat or @Carl should know. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I don't think it's a coprolite. Curious. Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossisle Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Belemnite? Cephalopods rule!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, fossisle said: Belemnite? Not like any I have ever seen. Maybe a borrow or strange concretion(?) Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, fossisle said: Belemnite? Not from the Eocene “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossisle Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Didn't read the Eocene part,whoops Cephalopods rule!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone wolf Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 here are a few more photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Could it be some type of coral? Or maybe alligator tooth? (I'm throwing out random suggestions to stir up the smart people's minds) “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 That is a piece of petrified wood. Nice piece too. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeargleSchmeargl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Another vote for petrified wood (you can see visible growth rings, similar to that of a tree trunk). Every single fossil you see is a miracle set in stone, and should be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izak_ Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 +1 for wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinosaurus Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 im sure that it isnt bone, i think its wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 It looks like a piece of a gorgonian. If you do a forum search with the word gorgonian, you will see a similar one that JohnJ found in the Cretaceous. I find similar ones in the Eocene of North Carolina. Here's a link http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/17990-campanian-marine-mystery/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Al Dente said: It looks like a piece of a gorgonian. If you do a forum search with the word gorgonian, you will see a similar one that JohnJ found in the Cretaceous. I find similar ones in the Eocene of North Carolina. Here's a link http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/17990-campanian-marine-mystery/ John J's piece lacks the concentric rings of this piece. I still say it is wood. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieira Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I agree with wood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone wolf Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 We do find small pieces of petrified wood occasionally and it must be considered as a possibility but I'm not sold yet . Correct me if I'm wrong but most wood is a solid growth ring from year-to-year this piece appears to be more of a spiral emanating from the center and there were at least 30 growth rings in a piece that is only 8 mm across I would consider that a very tight growth pattern for a plan , to me it has more of a shell look then petrified wood . I would like to thank everyone for their input so for, I'll do a search on the gorgonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lone wolf said: We do find small pieces of petrified wood occasionally and it must be considered as a possibility but I'm not sold yet . Correct me if I'm wrong but most wood is a solid growth ring from year-to-year this piece appears to be more of a spiral emanating from the center and there were at least 30 growth rings in a piece that is only 8 mm across I would consider that a very tight growth pattern for a plan , to me it has more of a shell look then petrified wood . I would like to thank everyone for their input so for, I'll do a search on the gorgonian Don't know if this is relevant, but when trees are in harsh habitats, perhaps dry or cold, they tend to have tight rings signaling periods of little growth. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 +1 for gorgonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lone wolf said: We do find small pieces of petrified wood occasionally and it must be considered as a possibility but I'm not sold yet . Correct me if I'm wrong but most wood is a solid growth ring from year-to-year this piece appears to be more of a spiral emanating from the center and there were at least 30 growth rings in a piece that is only 8 mm across I would consider that a very tight growth pattern for a plan , to me it has more of a shell look then petrified wood . I would like to thank everyone for their input so for, I'll do a search on the gorgonian Difficult to say due to quality of image but I'm not seeing a spiral pattern here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Lone wolf said: We do find small pieces of petrified wood occasionally and it must be considered as a possibility but I'm not sold yet . Correct me if I'm wrong but most wood is a solid growth ring from year-to-year this piece appears to be more of a spiral emanating from the center and there were at least 30 growth rings in a piece that is only 8 mm across I would consider that a very tight growth pattern for a plan , to me it has more of a shell look then petrified wood . I would like to thank everyone for their input so for, I'll do a search on the gorgonian Different woody plants have differing growth rates and during dry periods the growth can be restricted. The appearance of spiraling is an artifact of the weathering that occurred on the piece (before or after fossilizing). If You look close at the ends You will see it does not have a spiral to the growth rings. Still say it is wood. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 As Al Dente has stated it looks to be a gorgonian. You can clearly see the spiral twist and "growth rings" from this plate that Eric had posted in the other thread. Looks to be no doubt, at least to me. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Al and Charlie have me convinced. While I couldn't really make out whether or not the internal rings are concentric or spiral, the exterior does appear to have a spiral twist. I had never heard of Gorgonians before. Learned something new here again! Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 During ontogeny("development/growth") they twist to keep orientated to the currents Which is why such a transverse section is misleading,if you want to practice sclerochronology(age dating with biominerals) Maximum age :a colony can become about 80 years old, with outliers to over 300 years RARE FIND<WELL DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Octocoral growth rings(2005) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 14 hours ago, GeschWhat said: I don't think it's a coprolite. Curious. I agree, if late. The Yazoo has more than its share of scroll coprolites, but this ain't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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