frankh8147 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Hello everyone! I found this in the Monmouth County NJ brooks. Was wondering if anyone knows what it is; any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Wow, Frank. That sure looks like a lungfish tooth to me. @Carl @njfossilhunter @fossilsofnj Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, Fossildude19 said: Wow, Frank. That sure looks like a lungfish tooth to me. @Carl @njfossilhunter @fossilsofnj Haha, me too; I just didn't want to jump to that conclusion too quickly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I agree with lungfish tooth. Nice find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 VERY nice find! These are seldom seen from there. Congratulations! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izak_ Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Awesome find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Nice find! “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Frank, What's the size on this? Just curious. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njfossilhunter Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I just sent you a PM. Your tooth sure looks like a Lungfish plate to me....WOW..... I'm in shock..its been nearly 20 years since I found mine in 98. I will post the papers about the two lungfish teeth plate that was found ,,mine and one that was found in Maryland shortly,,,,Congrad's Frank. TonyThe Brooks Are Like A Box Of Chocolates,,,, You Never Know What You'll Find. I Told You I Don't Have Alzheimer's.....I Have Sometimers. Some Times I Remember And Some Times I Forget.... I Mostly Forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darko Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Cool find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Wow, that's awesome thanks everyone! @Fossildude19 It's 1.6 inches long by a little over an inch tall so this was a big guy. I will let the local museum know! I'm told this is the second one to come out of New Jersey and third east of the Mississippi so thanks so much for the ID help everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Excellent find Frank! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelonly Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Congratulations on your rare find! Leah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Here is a picture for size reference - thanks again everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njfossilhunter Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, frankh8147 said: Here is a picture for size reference - thanks again everyone!! I'm looking at James Kirkland's paper at the moment and I think you have a outside chance that yours maybe a different lungfish then the one I found...its beginning to look like a ....Ceratodus robustus ...maybe... not sure yet. If so that would be a plus to find a different type......Sooooo Cooolllllll...... TonyThe Brooks Are Like A Box Of Chocolates,,,, You Never Know What You'll Find. I Told You I Don't Have Alzheimer's.....I Have Sometimers. Some Times I Remember And Some Times I Forget.... I Mostly Forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 hour ago, njfossilhunter said: I'm looking at James Kirkland's paper at the moment and I think you have a outside chance that yours maybe a different lungfish then the one I found...its beginning to look like a ....Ceratodus robustus ...maybe... not sure yet. If so that would be a plus to find a different type......Sooooo Cooolllllll...... That's awesome! Thanks again for all your help on this Tony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Fantastic find, Frank! A good candidate for FFOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njfossilhunter Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I have been looking at James Kirkland's paper and did some comparison to frank8147 and from what I can make out from some poor photo's and drawings in the paper.... what you may have is a Ceratodus robustus which is from the Upper Jurassic Morrison Fm and to my knowledge is only where they are found in the western interior and another possibility that its a very large C. frazieri , C.gustasoni which are both from the Upper cretaceous deposits in the western interior as well. Even though C.robustus is not known in the Upper Cretaceous in the western interior doesn't mean that they couldn't have survived along the eastern coastal section of North America. C.frazieri certainly did why not another type. Prior To the discovery of C.frazieri in NJ late Cretaceous deposits they believed the Lungfish died out some 100 million years ago in north america and to find another one,,,,,known from the Jurassic along the cretaceous coastal plains would be amazing to say the least. I all most forgot to mention about a lungfish tooth plate that was found in 2004 in Marylands late cretaceous deposit around 95 mya it was only a partial section and I have not seen any paper about it....but was worth mentioning. Here is Kirkland and Parris papers TonyThe Brooks Are Like A Box Of Chocolates,,,, You Never Know What You'll Find. I Told You I Don't Have Alzheimer's.....I Have Sometimers. Some Times I Remember And Some Times I Forget.... I Mostly Forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey P Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Congratulations Frank. That's one helluva find. Thank you for sharing it with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 10 hours ago, frankh8147 said: Wow, that's awesome thanks everyone! @Fossildude19 It's 1.6 inches long by a little over an inch tall so this was a big guy. I will let the local museum know! I'm told this is the second one to come out of New Jersey and third east of the Mississippi so thanks so much for the ID help everyone! Extra cool! Congrats on the rarity of this find! Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossiling Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Keep looking! They're everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 13 hours ago, old bones said: Fantastic find, Frank! A good candidate for FFOM! Thanks, I will put it for FFOM later today. Tony, thanks again for the research papers, this has been really fun to read and research, I'll look more into it tonight. Im also looking very closely at Ceratodus Robustus but as per our discussion, I'll probably be donating this in the very near future so we'll find out for sure soon :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Fantastic. Congrats on the amazing and very rare find. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1HtUwlDORQ0TmpCMVZZQVNKTGc/view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Congratulations on an amazing find , and kudos for your willingness to donate the specimen for study! Perhaps our North Carolina/South Carolina/Georgia/Alabama members will keep and eye out for similar specimens, and help fill in the gap between the Texas and New Jersey occurrences. Don C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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