LargeAfricanApe Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Hi, I work at a fossil shop in Moab U.T., and for the life of me, I can't figure out what species or period it's from. I have reason to believe it's from China, but I can't confirm this. This has been on my mind for a long time, and any help would be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If it's from china, these are often faked but I don't see any red flags. Look it over for bubbles, this would mean it's a cast. Others may have more information. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargeAfricanApe Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yeah I've been worried about that. I recently learned that are paradoxides trilobites from Morroco were fakes. So disappointing, but I should have seen that coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilshale Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Anosteira maomingensis from the Maoming Basin in Guangdong, China. Late Eocene. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233561816_Anosteira_maomingensis_Testudines_Carettochelyidae_from_the_Late_Eocene_of_Maoming_Guangdong_Southern_China_New_material_and_re-description Large scale "restorations" are very common. The marginal scutes are missing: Thomas 1 Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave pom Allen Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 looks fake or a fabrication to me not worth the asking price be aware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterpillar Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sorry for you but it's a fake http://www.paleotheque.fr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilshale Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I don't think it is. At least the larger one seems to be ok - the smaller one could be a resin fake. Take a red hot needle and touch the carapax. If it starts to melt and stinks, it is made out of resin. You could also put some paint stripper / acetone on it. If the carapax gets soft, it is resin. Thomas Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterpillar Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 There is a problem with the organization of the plates I think it's a fabrication with different plates Like more fossils from China http://www.paleotheque.fr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Doesnt look right to me. Been added to the rock for sure. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andy- Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I agree that this looks suspicious, but I am leaning towards it being real. You should check out Manchurochelys as well. It's the other commonly sold fossil turtle from China. Looking forward to meeting my fellow Singaporean collectors! Do PM me if you are a Singaporean, or an overseas fossil-collector coming here for a holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilshale Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Google for Anosteira maomingensis and you will find out that this is the typical preservation for this species: https://www.google.de/search?q=anosteira+maomingensis&newwindow=1&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkrJ21sYTWAhUFJFAKHb-vDwsQ_AUICygC&biw=1607&bih=766 I am 99.9% sure. Manchurochelys looks different: Thomas Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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