snolly50 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 A package arrived from Spain. Its ill-used appearance caused initial concern, but all was well inside. Within the box - two fossil specimens IDed as: Halisaurus; Upper Cretaceous, Maastrichtian stage; Ouled Abdoun Basin (Phosphate beds); Oued Zem, Morocco. Forum member jnoun11 graciously reviewed photos and provided additional refinement of the ID and the life position of the sections. Halisaurus arambourgi The two jaw sections. upon arrival Right dentary, lingual aspect, 4.56 inches Left maxillary, 5.23 inches 2 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 The matrix partially obscuring the pieces has a pronounced granular character. It is easily abraded away with simple hand tools. A pin vise and carbide needle with a chisel tip were the only tools required beyond a very soft, post-surgery toothbrush. It was decided for display, that it was desirable to leave the pieces partially embedded in matrix; but to free enough to clearly show the fossil. Here is the lower with the desired prep mostly done. The maxillary section presented a little less straight forward challenge. Here is that piece with prep well underway. The matrix surrounding this piece displayed several deep fractures. Would it be best to squirt in some glue or should the material be removed? I still wished to retain enough matrix to provide an eye-pleasing display; but was curious that the cracked areas may be separating from additional exciting material. Curiosity won, and with some caution (but not much) a thin splitting chisel was applied. First a little, then a big section of matrix fell away - revealing the reverse of the already visible jaw and another large bone piece. Here is that view after clean-up. To be continued.... 2 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, snolly50 said: The matrix partially obscuring the pieces has a pronounced granular character. It is easily abraded away with simple hand tools. A pin vise and carbide needle with a chisel tip were the only tools required beyond a very soft, post-surgery toothbrush. It was decided for display, that it was desirable to leave the pieces partially embedded in matrix; but to free enough to clearly show the fossil. Here is the lower with the desired prep mostly done. The maxillary section presented a little less straight forward challenge. Here is that piece with prep well underway. The matrix surrounding this piece displayed several deep fractures. Would it be best to squirt in some glue or should the material be removed? I still wished to retain enough matrix to provide an eye-pleasing display; but was curious that the cracked areas may be separating from additional exciting material. Curiosity won, and with some caution (but not much) a thin splitting chisel was applied. First a little, then a big section of matrix fell away - revealing the reverse of the already visible jaw and another large bone piece. Here is that view after clean-up. To be continued.... Really nice pieces Jon and your prep work is great. Looking forward to the next episode of the thread. John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Nice job! “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 The characteristics of the matrix from this Moroccan locale merit comment. As mentioned due to its sandy, granular nature it scrapes away with relative ease. The fact that it seems comprised of relatively large grains cemented together lends to the illusion that no airborne dust is created when it is disturbed. This is not the case. Strong light reveals thick plumes of extremely fine airborne particles are present especially as loose material is brushed away. A simple dust mask would be a prudent measure when working this material. In prep I employed the tactic of lightly wetting the surface to be worked. This cuts down on dust and the damp matrix falls away in small clumps as opposed to individual grains. In fact the material was so hydrophilic, I wondered if soaking could be employed in prepping of this material. That is, assuming someone wished to free the fossil entirely. I popped off a small piece of matrix and secured a tiny shard of bone from the block. Here is a close-up of the tool used in this prep. I dropped them into a container of water and the next day the matrix was easily deconstructed by a touch of the needle; while the bone shard resisted pressure and remained unchanged. Emboldened by this success, I dropped the large piece of matrix shown at the bottom of this photo into a container of water. Almost immediately, a "landslide" of grains started separating from the piece. This occurred spontaneously with no mechanical intervention. The following day the block of matrix was easily broken up with the needle; however, there remained clumps were the bond appeared stronger. This included areas immediately adjacent to fossil material. Here is the deconstructed matrix and a few bits recovered from the sandy slush. This small experiment suggests to me that soaking may be a useful technique in the prep of material from this source. That is, assuming complete removal of matrix is desired. Of course there are caveats and concerns. Many times a fossil is "held together" by the matrix. Dissolving away the matrix support has the potential of unwanted consequences. To be continued... 2 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 This was a fun, relatively easy prep. I am very pleased with the finished pieces, lacking only appropriate display stands. As demonstrated, this material can be prepped with only simple tools and would be an ideal project for someone just starting in prepping. There are some areas of concern; safety and acquiring a genuine piece without getting snookered on the price. In addition, that great pitfall of all prepping, ham-handedness, is always a concern. It is so easy, when concentrating on one part of a fossil to mishandle another part. Prepping requires moving the fossil about, but it is all to common to grab a vulnerable part in doing so. Here are the finished pieces. The first photo is of the section of mandible. The next two images are of the "front and back" of the maxillary section. 3 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Very nice! Are these two pieces associated at all? Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said: Very nice! Are these two pieces associated at all? I wish I knew. No such claim was made by the seller; but I have no idea how many hands these passed through from the discoverer to me. I will make no such assertion, but I will display the sections together; probably on the same stand. At least that's my early thinking as to display options. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Having "played" with a few chunks of this matrix (I had a few that didn't have much in the way of showy fossils exposed), I attempted the soak method with incrediblely disasterous results. The bone just disintegrated along with the matrix. I would recommend the slower patient mechanical removal of matrix just to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 38 minutes ago, caldigger said: Having "played" with a few chunks of this matrix (I had a few that didn't have much in the way of showy fossils exposed), I attempted the soak method with incrediblely disasterous results. The bone just disintegrated along with the matrix. I would recommend the slower patient mechanical removal of matrix just to be safe. Thanks, I was hoping there would be some comments offered regarding the "soak" method. Even if I had wished these pieces to be prepped free; I would not have risked a try, fearing the loss of nice specimens. The tiny shard of bone in my example did OK; but I think your experience sounds a real alarm of caution. Thanks again. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Very nice. Great prep and narration. Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 12 hours ago, snolly50 said: Thanks, I was hoping there would be some comments offered regarding the "soak" method. Even if I had wished these pieces to be prepped free; I would not have risked a try, fearing the loss of nice specimens. The tiny shard of bone in my example did OK; but I think your experience sounds a real alarm of caution. Thanks again. I've had some success with soaking some Khouribga fossils in water. I had some weird fish jaw piece that was really fragile. I had prepped it from one side and consolidated it with cyanoacrylate. There were some fragile parts sticking into the matrix. So I dropped the whole piece of matrix in some water. The matrix dissolved nicely. The bone I strengthened with cyanoacrylate survived with some damage because it did become very fragile. But those parts that I freed with the water were so fragile that I wouldn't have been able to prep those manually. So on that bone I think it was the right choice. A few other bones that I didn't consolidate in the same piece of matrix completely dissintegrated though. In other cases I've had the matrix just become a little mushy and not fall apart at all, so I guess it all depends on the situation. But cyanoacrylate definitely helps. 2 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 What a fantastic end result. I goes to show that with the right tools and patience you can produce a fantastic display piece. Very enjoyable reading too Mister S. John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, JohnBrewer said: What a fantastic end result. I goes to show that with the right tools and patience you can produce a fantastic display piece. Very enjoyable reading too Mister S. Thanks John. It was a fun product. Thanks also to the others with comments and especially those that reported experience with "soaking" matrix. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Looks like it was a fun project. and your narration is superb! RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 From the start of this prep snolly was thinking of ways to display the jaw sections. Finally, an idea from several years back was tried. A few years ago a wild cherry tree at the lakefront on the grounds of the snolly Kingdom went to that great forest in the sky, leaving behind its earthly corpus. Well, a chainsaw served as undertaker. However, snolly cleverly saved some slabs of the attractive wood with the idea of cobbling together fossil stands. The wooden rounds languished in the snollygarage, awaiting their moment of glory. Here are a couple of representative slabs. They are roughly 6 inches across. 1 1/2 inches thick. As can be seen, the slabs are rustic; chainsaw marred, split in drying, bark with lichen and moss mostly left in place. Had a planer been available the chainsaw grooves could have been removed and the wood finished to furniture quality. However, "you got to run with what you brought to the track," so the rustic look was embraced. The high spots were hit with an electric sander (it would have taken the rest of snolly's natural life to sand out the chain marks). A light coat of cherry stain was applied and the slabs sprayed with clear satin polyurethane. To hold the fossil pieces 1/8 inch brass rod stock was bent to custom configurations. An inexpensive wire jig was employed. However, in snolly's limited experience a smaller gauge rod would make forming much easier. The 1/8 inch rod stock is very rigid and sturdy. It appears more than adequate for this application. Here is the finished wood slab with the brass rods inserted. This configuration was for the maxillary jaw section. For the heavier, more bulky mandible section a different support tactic was employed. Here are the Halisaurus jaw sections mounted on their display stands. Here is a display constructed in the same manner for the teeth of Prognathodon anceps Finally, here are the fossils and stands undergoing a trial placement in a corner of the living room of Palatial snolly Manor. This was a fun project. 4 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Nice display stands! Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Awesome stands @snolly50. Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 They look great John, but the big question on everyone's mind is how is the Snolly wife taking to the new decor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 hours ago, caldigger said: They look great John, but the big question on everyone's mind is how is the Snolly wife taking to the new decor? Thanks for asking. The snollywife recently received a new diamond ring. snolly will be able to get away with quite a bit - for a while. However, the final resting place for these pieces has yet to be determined. Display surfaces are getting more and more crowded. It may be getting close to time for some new display cabinetry. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Well now that you've gotten the little misses buttered up with sparklies, it might be a good time to spring the whole taking over her wardrobe closet for display purposes concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Excellent acquisition. Excellent prep. Excellent display. Excellent tale. Excellent wife. I guess I could add... excellent husband. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 48 minutes ago, caldigger said: Well now that you've gotten the little misses buttered up with sparklies, it might be a good time to spring the whole taking over her wardrobe closet for display purposes concept. LOL I better not press my luck. I don't even go in there. If one of those clothes rods gave way, a person could be crushed to death under the tons of falling wardrobe. 44 minutes ago, jpc said: Excellent acquisition. Excellent prep. Excellent display. Excellent tale. Excellent wife. I guess I could add... excellent husband. : ) Thanks for the kind words. I know you appreciate the great worth of having a partner, who either shares your interests or fully appreciates its value to you. I often tease about the snollywife, but in reality I am among the most fortunate of Men. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 8 hours ago, snolly50 said: Thanks for the kind words. I know you appreciate the great worth of having a partner, who either shares your interests or fully appreciates its value to you. I often tease about the snollywife, but in reality I am among the most fortunate of Men. Truer words have never been spoken. None of my wife's friends understand why she "lets" me have an entire room of the house for fossils. She also pretends to care when I open my mouth and fossil words start coming out. I would argue that it's not just for fossils. I also have some antique schoolhouse maps from my family homestead, my chess table, and it's where my boys play their trombone/french horn and I (very occasionally) play my trumpet. But, it's mostly for fossils. Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 De gustibus non est disputandum The Mosasaur displays have now moved to what will be their "permanent" home. This post has raised the issue of the place of fossils in "decor." Designers have long used large scale or striking natural objects as focal points in a room. A large fossil fish slab or amethyst cathedral are good examples. This is based on visual appeal and novelty alone without any regard to the "science" of the object. However, it is believed that the fossil enthusiast can benefit from the pure decorator value of fossil pieces; and with subtle labeling, exercise the scientific side of their interest. snolly of course believes in the intrinsic beauty many fossils possess and feels that they are appropriately used to enhance the visual appeal of a living area. It is also felt that fossil pieces can be compatible, blending with furniture and art, that may be considered more conventional. The image shows a corner of snolly's formal living room. The fossils rest on an antique, mahogany, Duncan Phyfe, lyre based, parlor table. They are accompanied by a brass ship's compass. The fossil's rustic stands and the fossils themselves provide a contrast (it is hoped not jarring) to the formal furniture. Beside, is an antique rocker, it's worn, silk, large floral print fabric replaced with a modern, small floral material. Another small parlor table with a pie crust top supports old family photos and a Riker mount with Hadrosaur teeth. Visible on the walls are an antique oil portrait from the snollywife's family and a section of an antique silk kimono. The juxtaposition of these desparate elements snolly finds pleasing. In addition it allows expression and enjoyment of his interest in fossils. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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