Crann Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Out hunting this morning, opened up a slab of shale and this was inside, looks like a lobsters tail to me but could be anything in this game, found on Yorkshire coast, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
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Fossildude19 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Looks a bit more like a bivalve, to me. @TqB @Kosmoceras @DE&i @JohnBrewer Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: Looks a bit more like a bivalve, to me. @TqB @Kosmoceras @DE&i @JohnBrewer With squish out ? Link to post Share on other sites
Fossildude19 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, Rockwood said: With squish out ? That, or an encrusting bryozoan? Link to post Share on other sites
Crann Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: That, or an encrusting bryozoan? It also had a "tail" that broke up when it became loose from the shale, wish I got a photo of it beforehand... grrrrr Link to post Share on other sites
TqB Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Lobster's not impossible but I've seen squished belemnite phragmocones that look like that from around there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Crann Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 Picked it up and it is falling apart now, the joys of the unknown... Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Crann said: It also had a "tail" that broke up when it became loose from the shale, wish I got a photo of it beforehand... grrrrr Any info on how guards preserve in the shale ? Link to post Share on other sites
TqB Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Crann said: Picked it up and it is falling apart now, the joys of the unknown... I'm pretty sure from that that it is a phragmocone. Link to post Share on other sites
TqB Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Any info on how guards preserve in the shale ? They preserve well. This sort of thing (from the Grey Shales, Lower Toarcian Stage) - the phragmocones are often much less well preserved than this and can be grey instead of reddish but some of the Upper Lias beds are noted for them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ludwigia Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I'll go along with Tarquin. Link to post Share on other sites
JohnBrewer Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I've a few lobsters and none look like that. I'm sure it's not a lobster. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, TqB said: They preserve well. Guess that sinks the idea of the "tail" being supporting evidence as one. Link to post Share on other sites
Crann Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 21/09/2017 at 9:18 PM, JohnBrewer said: I've a few lobsters and none look like that. I'm sure it's not a lobster. This matches the tail that was there before it fell to pieces, you think possible ? Link to post Share on other sites
Crann Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 @TqB @Rockwood @Ludwigia Link to post Share on other sites
Fossildude19 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 @ntrusc @t-tree Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Possible, maybe. Probable, no. Link to post Share on other sites
TqB Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 From your last photo of the specimen, this is typical preservation of phragmocones for the area. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Crann Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, TqB said: From your last photo of the specimen, this is typical preservation of phragmocones for the area. That piece was from the underneath that fell off, it did have a tail, first look it reminded me of a stingray shape, I need to start taking photos before I remove ! Link to post Share on other sites
Ludwigia Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I'll stick with belemnite phragmocone. If you really want to be sure, take it to your nearest museum or paleontologist. Link to post Share on other sites
JohnBrewer Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I think it’s a phragmocone still Link to post Share on other sites
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