OneLastSift Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I found these and I think they are fossil vertabraes of fish but I am not sure. I found them at a brook in Holmdel NJ and they are pretty small. I think two of them are vertabrae but I am not sure about the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Welcome to the Forum. Your pictures are awfully small, but from what I can make out, only the 3rd one down in the first picture is a vertebra, and likely fish. Please post some larger pictures, so that we can see the other items to be sure. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLastSift Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 thankyou. so you think the smallest one is a vertabrae? how do you make the picture larger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Yes this one: The others look like typical brook concretions, to me. Better (larger, more in focus) pictures, taken in daylight, of both sides, would help to clear up any ID confusion. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLastSift Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 I think the thing in the middle is the vertabra too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 We really need better more in focus pictures with the possible fossil being the CENTER of attention, in order to give a possible identification. Pictures with the item in your hand are not the best way to get an ID. Good lighting is also needed with natural light being best. What are you using to take your pictures? Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLastSift Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 my phone any other tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Tips: Place the items on a white piece of paper. Do not hold them, as this causes the photos to blur. Take pictures of each item, front and back. Take from directly above the fossils, no oblique angles. Also try for better lighting - shadows aren't great. Fluorescent lighting works pretty well. Keep about 10-12 inches away from the items. Make sure the fossil is in focus, not the background. Download a photo editing app, or use the built in editor to crop the pictures around the fossil. Lots of background = no good photos. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Number 4 (right hand side in very top photo) may also be a fish vertebra (#3 definitely is as Tim said). A few fish have markedly dorso-ventrally compressed vertebrae. Better photos should resolve the issue. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 11 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: Place the items on a white piece of paper. Not sure I agree on this one: placing them on a flat uniform surface is good, but white is really not a good color. I'm not exactly sure why, but on white pieces of paper the pictures lose quality. Also, it can sometimes be hard to work out what is fossil/shadow of the fossil. So preferably put it on a flat surface which is not white, eg a black (for light colored fossils)/red/blue/green etc piece of paper. All the other tips are good though Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 The pictures are good enough to tell what the objects are. The 3 larger vertebrae are batoid (ray) vertebrae and the smallest vertebra is from a shark. Two of the ray vertebrae have one of the concave faces worn down which makes them look a bit different. “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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