Flx Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Hi A couple of weeks ago I aquired some random bone fossils from the Kem Kem beds in southeast Morocco. Among these fossils was also this small, incomplete (dino? crocodile?) vert. I was wondering if it is possible to ID it. The width is about 13cm (5,1 inch) and the height is about 6cm (2.4inch). Taking pictures that show the complex geometry is quite tricky... I hope the pics work for you. As you can see there is some repair. However, as far as I can see all fragments belong to this vertebra (no creative reconstructions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Looks croc to Me. But wait for others to reply to be sure. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Agreed would lean toward croc, cervical? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Speeding Carno Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Croc I'd say, definitely, in my opinion, not Dino or turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flx Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 Thank you all for your feedback. For me to learn: What are the features of the vertebra that makes you lean towards croc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Speeding Carno Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Flx said: Thank you all for your feedback. For me to learn: What are the features of the vertebra that makes you lean towards croc? Dino centrums are a bit more circular. The bone surrounding the neural cord is also too thick for Dino. Turtles have a really low neural arch and a process under The centrum. Croc centrums are very long compared to Dino centrums. They've also got a lot of bulk around the neural cord. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, The Speeding Carno said: Dino centrums are a bit more circular. The bone surrounding the neural cord That's not true for all. Sigilmassasaurus has centra that are much wider than tall in the back of the neck. Then again, this looks nothing like Sigilmassasaurus. Due to the damage on the zygapophyses it's a little hard to tell which is the front. But it looks like the convex end of the centrum is on the posterior end, which makes it croc. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Speeding Carno Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said: That's not true for all. Sigilmassasaurus has centra that are much wider than tall in the back of the neck. Then again, this looks nothing like Sigilmassasaurus. Due to the damage on the zygapophyses it's a little hard to tell which is the front. But it looks like the convex end of the centrum is on the posterior end, which makes it croc. Hmmm, didn't know about that. Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, The Speeding Carno said: Hmmm, didn't know about that. Thanks for the info! For reference, a Sigilmassasaurus anterior dorsal vertebra. Wider than tall, but clearly very different from this vert. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flx Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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