fangirl0708 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just left Gainesville, found this oddity while we were hunting and I was hoping to see if anyone can help me ID it. We are still driving, so if better pictures are needed, please let me know. It is the size of a dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Fish tooth plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 35 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Fish tooth plate. +1 “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Nice! The teeth typically are lost in the Plio-Pleistocene homologous plates found in South Florida. Like this one: http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I must be getting soft. Almost said drum, but chickened out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 It is a phyllodont type toothplate, probably from a wrasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey P Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 That's a beautiful find. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Al Dente said: It is a phyllodont type toothplate, probably from a wrasse. Now if I could just learn to be more patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Hulbert does list one wrasse (Family LABRIDAE) in the Middle Miocene, but it is "genus and spec. indet." http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 @Harry Pristis @Al Dente How about ocean sunfish? “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 9 hours ago, WhodamanHD said: @Harry Pristis @Al Dente How about ocean sunfish? Ocean sunfish (Mola) have bony beaks that lack enamel teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Al Dente said: Ocean sunfish (Mola) have bony beaks that lack enamel teeth. Sorry, I mean regular sunfish (I remembered looking at some specimens, just found some other references to them) genus Lepomis. i know they have been found in the middle Miocene of Florida. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Lepomis and other freshwater sunfish have, I believe, essentially undifferentiated teeth in their grinding mills. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi, If it is Miocene, it looks like Labrodon pavimentatum. Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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