Seguidora-de-Isis Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Good morning to everyone at TFF! In my box with Kem Kem fossils, I'm posting here 3 more mysterious fossils. Any help is welcome! My thanks to all who can help me! ============================================ ============================================ Bone Nº 01 Size: 26 mm ============================================ ============================================ Bone Nº 02 Size: 17 mm ============================================ ============================================ Bone Nº 03 Size: 23 mm @Troodon @LordTrilobite Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 nr 1, no idea. nr 2, a limb maybe? nr 3, this looks like a finger bone to me. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 resembles a femural head, of what I cannot say. I also agree with finger bone for the last one (metacarpal). “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I'm gonna have to disagree on nr. 2 just being a femural head. I think that's almost the complete bone, as it doesn't look broken. Both ends look like sutures where another bone fits. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 All mysteries all non dinosaurian ...is this a test One, uno: could be a portion of rib?????? Two, dos: one might be a portion of a vertebra process?????? Three, Tres: hand bone????? solo compre huesos con los que estamos familiarizados Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sseth Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Bone #3 is a turtle humerus. _____________________________________ Seth www.fossilshack.com www.americanfossil.com www.fishdig.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 No, this is not a test my friend @Troodon, because I am also trying to identify these bones . In my opinion, I agree that none of them seems to be from Dinosaurs ... Bone Nº 01 - Really seems to be a rib fragment. I've thought of a fish rib, but it looks very sturdy to be fish. And it's too hollow to be Dromaeosauridae. So I'm working with the possibility of a fragment of Pterosaur's rib. Bone Nº 02 - It reminds me a fragment of scapulocoracoid of Pterosaurus; But I do not much believe in the possibility of a scapulocoracoid fragment of Pterosaur. I am more strongly inclined to a fragment of the region pelvic girdle of turtle: The bone Nº 03 - Definitely not a turtle humerus, due to the fact that a turtle humerus, typical of Kem Kem should have a format similar to this: But I think this # 03 bone is compatible with a turtle phalanx or turtle metatarsal; What do you think? Note: ¡Soy un cazador de Pterosaurios mi amigo @Troodon! Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Seguidora-de-Isis said: But I think this # 03 bone is compatible with a turtle phalanx or turtle metatarsal, for as my friend @LordTrilobite said, this bone is almost complete; I was talking about bone #2 though. Not bone #3. But bone #3 also seems pretty complete. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said: I was talking about bone #2 though. Not bone #3. But bone #3 also seems pretty complete. Oh yeah, sorry, I confused the bones, I was even editing and correcting them, and now that I've seen you already answered. I'm sorry for the mistake. Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Oh don't worry about it. It can sometimes be easy to read over something and miss some details. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sseth Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Seguidora-de-Isis said: No, this is not a test my friend @Troodon, because I am also trying to identify these bones . In my opinion, I agree that none of them seems to be from Dinosaurs ... Bone Nº 01 - Really seems to be a rib fragment. I've thought of a fish rib, but it looks very sturdy to be fish. And it's too hollow to be Dromaeosauridae. So I'm working with the possibility of a fragment of Pterosaur's rib. Bone Nº 02 - It reminds me a fragment of scapulocoracoid of Pterosaurus; But I do not much believe in the possibility of a scapulocoracoid fragment of Pterosaur. I am more strongly inclined to a fragment of the region pelvic girdle of turtle: The bone Nº 03 - Definitely not a turtle humerus, due to the fact that a turtle humerus, typical of Kem Kem should have a format similar to this: But I think this # 03 bone is compatible with a turtle phalanx or turtle metatarsal, for as my friend @LordTrilobite said, this bone is almost complete; What do you think? Note: ¡Soy un cazador de Pterosaurios mi amigo @Troodon! I am going to have to disagree that bone #3 is complete. It is missing both ends due to wear as the formation has moved over the years. This is common with Kem Kem material, and so that makes the bone look different. Anyway, just my opinion. _____________________________________ Seth www.fossilshack.com www.americanfossil.com www.fishdig.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 hours ago, sseth said: I am going to have to disagree that bone #3 is complete. It is missing both ends due to wear as the formation has moved over the years. This is common with Kem Kem material, and so that makes the bone look different. Anyway, just my opinion. Oh yes, I respect your opinion, including thank you very much. But in the case of this bone Nº3, the wear is not so pronounced. There was little wear. Looking in person is much better than in the photos ! I'm very inclined to think that this bone is the phalanx of turtle or metatarsal of turtle, but I agree with you, really this bone seems to be turtle! Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 And the Nº 1 and Nº 2 bones, what do you think, my friends? Any material comparative that can help in my hypotheses, my friends @Troodon and @LordTrilobite? And what do you think of my hypotheses? Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Seguidora-de-Isis said: Note: ¡Soy un cazador de Pterosaurios mi amigo @Troodon! sí, continúas buena fortuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Bone 2 can be many things I believe it's to much of a fragment to make a call. I have no idea on what animal bone 1 rib belongs to. For future reference here are some images of cretaceous turtle limbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 56 minutes ago, Troodon said: Bone 2 can be many things... Please my friend Troodon, any hypothetical guesses to give me about this bone Nº 2? @LordTrilobite said that both ends look like sutures where another bone fits. And I agree with him, and this could be a starting point for guesses... Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Seguidora-de-Isis said: Any hypothetical guesses to give me about this bone Nº 2? @LordTrilobite said that both ends look like sutures where another bone fits. And I agree with him, and this could be a starting point for guesses... I'm not in agreement that they are sutures look like broken ends and I also do not think 3 is complete missing one end and the other side worn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Well, some extra detailed photos of those two ends that could either be broken or sutures might give some more info. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said: Well, some extra detailed photos of those two ends that could either be broken or sutures might give some more info. No problem, once again thanks for the help and tomorrow I will post more detailed photos of the extremities. Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 19 hours ago, LordTrilobite said: Well, some extra detailed photos of those two ends that could either be broken or sutures might give some more info. No problem. As requested, I'm posting more photos and as always, thank you very much for all the help. @LordTrilobite and @Troodon Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I'm still pretty sure both ends are suture surfaces. On the surface in the first photo there looks to be very little damage, if any. And on the 5th photo on the bottom right, those lines on the edge also look like suture lines. Though this fatter end might have some damage. It's hard to tell. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Bone fragments are very difficult to determine as is the case with your 3 specimens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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