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Equus Metatarsal?


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I believe this to be a horse metatarsal, most likely Equus. But am wondering since it was found in mixed Pleistocene / Pliocene sediments if it could be a Pliocene species. That is saying it is horse of course, you know Mr. Edd. It was found in a quarry in eastern NC that contains Pliocene Yorktown formation and a Pleistocene pebble lag. It was protruding from a sloped area that extended down into a shallow pit. The sediments pushed down were mixed Yorktown and the pebble lag. Mammal fossils are uncommon in North Carolina and they are usually teeth. Bones, especially complete are almost unheard of.

 

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It looks like an Equus cannon bone. I'm not terribly familiar with mammal fossils, but I do know a bit about horses. Maybe wait for someone else to chime in before accepting my opinion. ;)

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@thelivingdead531  It could well be a cannon bone. I am not familiar at all with mammal fossils. I looked at some images online and it compared favorably with metatarsal, but we shall see. Thanks for commenting. You will probably end up being right.

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thelivingdead531 is right in confirming your initial diagnosis.  It is indeed an equid metapodial ('cannon bone').  Whether it is Pliocene or Pleistocene is difficult to tell.

 

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Here you can see the unmistakeable characteristics of the cannon bone (third metacarpal). I hope this helps! Sorry I can't help with age though. :( I can try to do some digging for an answer on it. 

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Metatarsus.thumb.jpg.c1d87e0a89bccef02fc994cc0ce4295d.jpgMetatarsus_text.thumb.jpg.cdad6c2dd0c0d69b7cab5247b44b4f38.jpgMetacarpus.thumb.jpg.7da40be8681dcdc4c7703c5dd114e6ad.jpgMetacarpus_text.thumb.jpg.e93d03e75ceea9a5d27a800b9356857e.jpg

excerpt from E. Schmid. 1972. Atlas of Animal Bones. For Prehistorians, Archaeologists and Quaternary Geologists. Elsevier, New York.

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Thanks everyone.

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Metapodia.thumb.jpg.8d4d534479630ef7ae6ce3b82ec95317.jpg

excerpt from the document mentioned before

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On 10/17/2017 at 12:44 AM, Harry Pristis said:

 

 

This is an equus metacarpal.

 

 

Thanks for the confirmation Harry.

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25 minutes ago, sixgill pete said:

Thanks for the confirmation Harry.

Is it just me, or is this a hand over foot confirmation ?

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12 minutes ago, Rockwood said:

Is it just me, or is this a hand over foot confirmation ?

Touche !!!!!

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