Napoleon North Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Hi Is this fossil bird bone piece? Location: Twardowski Cave , Kraków , Southern Poland Age:? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 A picture of the broken end would help, but from what I can see I would say yes it is! @jpc may be able to tell from these pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon North Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 59 minutes ago, FossilDudeCO said: A picture of the broken end would help, but from what I can see I would say yes it is! @jpc may be able to tell from these pics Ok thanks And can it be a fossil? All in all I'm most interested in. The cave in the first chambers is full of rubbish. I found there a bit of bones but rather contemporary ones. I would eventually find something with Pleistocene ehh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon North Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Photos with flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Its the right colour of the fossil material I have seen coming out of Poland. I am not very well versed in the fossilization of the area, but I do know caves can be tricky. There was a cave here in Colorado that they dated by creating a spreadsheet of everything found and crossed that with ages of other known species from areas they had definite dates for. What other things have you found in the cave? Anything else that could point to Pleistocene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon North Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, FossilDudeCO said: What other things have you found in the cave? Anything else that could point to Pleistocene? I heard once that someone found something. But it was long ago and I do not know whether the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon North Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 And what bird can be this bone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 tough one....maybe proximal end of a tibiotarsus. I have no idea what bird, ifitis bird. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon North Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 hours ago, jpc said: Anyone else? do not know why you are not nice to me but it's sad and please think what you write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Napoleon North said: do not know why you are not nice to me but it's sad and please think what you write. I think something has been lost in translation here. JPC is not certain about this piece and is asking if someone else who might know more could offer some help. ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Napoleon North said: do not know why you are not nice to me but it's sad and please think what you write. Jpc was asking for other people to give an opinion, not trying to insult You. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon North Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 I think, however, I will give up participating in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 @Napoleon North @jpc was just asking if anyone else had any views to help you out. As @Kane said it was a translation miss understanding. Maybe @Auspex may have an idea? John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 That would be your decision to make, but it would be most unfortunate if you made that decision because of a misunderstanding. JPC was simply asking if anyone else had a more informed opinion. Few people have the expertise to identify birds based on a fragmentary limb bone. Even fewer would be in a position to know both the modern and the Pleistocene avifauna of your area and be able to say definitively if your specimen is not from a modern bird. Your post has been up for only a day, not enough time for many people who might be able to help to see it. I hope you will reconsider. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Wow... I am very sorry if something got confused in translation to Polish. I was not in any way being Not Nice. I cannot see where the problem lies, but trust me, I was trying to find help for your bone ID. As others have said, I was asking of anyone else has an opinion this bone. Please forgive me, Napoleon North. It would be sad if you leave because of this. We enjoy seeing your fossils from over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 @jpc, I agree with the tibiotartus ID and it does look extremely avian to me. Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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