eannis6 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Hello again! I was just wondering if this tooth is a Carcharodon Hastalis Tooth. I found it at Brownie’s Beach as I was combing the beach. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Could very well be, but It's kind of hard to tell. Best way to prove this one is is by disproving any other possibilities and it doesn't look closer to any other teeth to me. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 It is hard to tell from fragments like that. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eannis6 Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, ynot said: It is hard to tell from fragments like that. It certainly is! 1 hour ago, WhodamanHD said: Could very well be, but It's kind of hard to tell. Best way to prove this one is is by disproving any other possibilities and it doesn't look closer to any other teeth to me. Thanks whodamanHD, I’ll do more digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil-Hound Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 10/22/2017 at 8:24 AM, eannis6 said: It certainly is! Thanks whodamanHD, I’ll do more digging. I don't see much of a curve in the root. Looks more like a C. megalodon to me. Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fossil-Hound said: I don't see much of a curve in the root. Looks more like a C. megalodon to me. I ought about that but I didnt see a bourlette, although in hindsight I guess it this could have worn away given the partially of the tooth. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil-Hound Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: I ought about that but I didnt see a bourlette, although in hindsight I guess it this could have worn away given the partially of the tooth. Exactly. It's very worn down. I have a hand full of teeth like this one that are to big to be C. hastalis. Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eannis6 Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Fossil-Hound said: Exactly. It's very worn down. I have a hand full of teeth like this one that are to big to be C. hastalis. That’s so cool, I had no clue it was likely a meg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eannis6 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 @Gizmo what are your thoughts on the tooth in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 This is a broken fragment of a tooth. Saying it is hastalis or megalodon is purely speculative on anyone's part. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, sixgill pete said: This is a broken fragment of a tooth. Saying it is hastalis or megalodon is purely speculative on anyone's part. That is what I said in the first reply. Then all these others come on and make guesses as to what it is. It could be either, or it could be something else, there it not enough there to be sure from a picture. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Just now, ynot said: That is what I said in the first reply. Then all these others come on and make guesses as to what it is. It could be either, or it could be something else, there it not enough there to be sure from a picture. Correct Tony. I was trying to reiterate your point. 1 hour ago, eannis6 said: That’s so cool, I had no clue it was likely a meg. Sorry, for someone to say this fragment is likely a meg would be irresponsible. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Fossil-Hound said: Exactly. It's very worn down. I have a hand full of teeth like this one that are to big to be C. hastalis. Large hastalis teeth (they can reach 3 and 1/2 inches) can be mistaken for megs at first glance. See this post. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 A clear picture of the edge would be very helpful. If I had to guess it looks like a Mako fragment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eannis6 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 Thanks guys....remember. I’m new to this, so a little grace goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gizmo said: A clear picture of the edge would be very helpful. If I had to guess it looks like a Mako fragment. If I had to speculate on this tooth, I would agree with Gizmo. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eannis6 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 Here are edge photos. I don’t see serrations. @Gizmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, eannis6 said: Thanks guys....remember. I’m new to this, so a little grace goes a long way. That is why @sixgill pete and I are trying to make it clear that there is not enough of this tooth to be sure what it is from a picture. We can all make guesses - but that is all that can be done from a picture of a fragmented tooth. PS The pictures You posted while I was typing make it more likely to be a hastalis. (quality of pictures makes a big difference.) Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eannis6 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, ynot said: That is why @sixgill pete and I are trying to make it clear that there is not enough of this tooth to be sure what it is from a picture. We can all make guesses - but that is all that can be done from a picture of a fragmented tooth. I appreciate that Tony! @ynot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eannis6 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, ynot said: That is why @sixgill pete and I are trying to make it clear that there is not enough of this tooth to be sure what it is from a picture. We can all make guesses - but that is all that can be done from a picture of a fragmented tooth. PS The pictures You posted while I was typing make it more likely to be a hastalis. (quality of pictures makes a big difference.) Oh ok awesome. Thanks!!! @ynot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil-Hound Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 3 hours ago, sixgill pete said: Large hastalis teeth (they can reach 3 and 1/2 inches) can be mistaken for megs at first glance. See this post. @sixgill pete I know a Meg when I see it! Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eannis6 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Does this help anybody out who is having trouble guessing? I don’t see serrations I don’t think, and this was my best stab at drawing it. I’m still thinking Hastalis, and who knows, maybe this illustration is worthless. Thanks guys. I know now how difficult fragments are to Id and will likely always remain unknown. @sixgill pete @ynot @Fossil-Hound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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