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Dpaul7

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Hello!

 

I've been trying to identify some fossils from Aurora, North Carolina.  My sister sent them to me, now that I have started collecting fossils again (after a LONG hiatus of 45+ years).

Some I think I have done correctly, but corrections most welcome.  I'm not too familiar with the fossils of this area OR Era. (Pennsylvanian fossils of Pennsylvania is what I have hunted/found).  I've made the clearest photos I could (I am a bit shaky with the camera sometimes). Here are my attempts (and requests for help!)

 

A: Sea Urchin Spine   B: Lemon Shark Negaprion sp  C (1,2,& 3): Tiger Shark - Galeocerdo (contortus?)
D through J: Sand TIger Shark Tooth
K:  A tooth?  A claw?  I have no idea!
L:  Do not know    M:  Do not know  N:  Rootless Sand Tiger Shark tooth?
O:  I have no idea!
P: A coral?  Stromatolite?    Q:  I have no idea!   R:  Sponge

 

Thank you for your attention.  As I learn and study, I hope to be able to help in the future!  I've been gathering books to study, and enjoy this subject very much!

 

David Ruckser

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I have combined the photos into one; I can certainly upload individuals if needed.

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Specimen Q is a ray mouth plate row.

 

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Sorry I can’t help but looking forward to hearing what others think, especially for Specimen O. :popcorn:

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Hello from about two and half hours south of you! Where about a do you hunt for fossils ( not looking for your “honey holes” just curious)? Not an incredible amount of places for Carboniferous fossils since st. Clair shut down other than Carbondale. I agree with what’s already been said, just like to point out that it’s physogaleus contortus for C rather than galeocardo contortus.

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Happy hunting,

Mason

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1 hour ago, Dpaul7 said:

Thank you, MOTM ! Very much appreciated!

The label MOTM means "Member of the Month". You can see that there is a date next to it too: 08/2015. This means that he was the Member of the Month in August 2015. 

His username is @abyssunder;)

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Oh, and for the IDs you're asking: 

  • A: sea urchin spine 
  • B: Lemon shark tooth, species likely Negaprion eurybathrodon
  • C: Tiger shark Physogaleus/Galeocerdo contortus (which one of the two is the accepted one now?)
  • D-J: sand tiger shark teeth, probably, but some of them are too broken to certify. 
  • K:  a worn snaggletooth shark Hemipristis serra
  • L: requiem shark tooth (Carcharhinus sp.)? Or maybe a worn tiger shark (Galeocerdo contortus)? A few more pictures would be helpful.
  • M: bull/dusky shark tooth Carcharhinus sp.
  • N: small piece of shark tooth enamel, possibly sand tiger but then again, because it's broken it's too hard to certify.
  • O: small piece of a bittersweet clam Glycymeris sp.
  • P: some kind of coral/sponge...
  • Q: ray dental plates
  • R: maybe a sponge, or possibly a concretion (rock)

I repeated some of the IDs already given by other members, and also some of the ones you already proposed, but I thought it could be useful to have a short summary of everything :D

 

Happy hunting!

 

Max

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6 hours ago, Max-fossils said:

C: Tiger shark Physogaleus/Galeocerdo contortus (which one of the two is the accepted one now?)

I believe it’s Physogaleus or at least it is in all recent scientific literature I have read. 

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Happy hunting,

Mason

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15 hours ago, WhodamanHD said:

I believe it’s Physogaleus or at least it is in all recent scientific literature I have read. 

Ok, thanks :dinothumb:

Max Derème

 

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19 hours ago, M Harvey said:

O looks like an Ostera shell

(I think you mean Ostrea). No, I'm pretty sure that O is not part of an oyster shell. Hereby I attached a picture of a bittersweet clam, Glycymeris sp, from the Westerschelde in the Netherlands. In red I circled the part that is representative to O.

 

The second picture I attached is that of an oyster, Ostrea edulis, that I found on the Zandmotor in the Netherlands. You can see that there are no such ridges/teeth as those that are present in the Glycymeris and in O. 

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"I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day."

   - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier

 

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On 11/22/2017 at 8:07 AM, Max-fossils said:

(I think you mean Ostrea). No, I'm pretty sure that O is not part of an oyster shell. Hereby I attached a picture of a bittersweet clam, Glycymeris sp, from the Westerschelde in the Netherlands. In red I circled the part that is representative to O.

 

The second picture I attached is that of an oyster, Ostrea edulis, that I found on the Zandmotor in the Netherlands. You can see that there are no such ridges/teeth as those that are present in the Glycymeris and in O. 

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You may be right.  Hard to tell from the small photo.

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On 21 novembre 2017 at 6:30 PM, Max-fossils said:

The label MOTM means "Member of the Month". You can see that there is a date next to it too: 08/2015. This means that he was the Member of the Month in August 2015. 

His username is @abyssunder;)

Bravo !!!:P

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I agree with @Max-fossils, D to J are sand shark teeth, and i also agree with @abyssunder, Q is a ray mouth plate. I agree with @Pixpaleosky, @ynot and @Max-fossils,  O is a shell hinge but not from an oyster.

N might be from an Odontaspis cuspidata.

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C and L are Physogaleus contortus

 

R is a Bryozoan

 

I think P is some type of sponge

 

I agree with the rest of @Max-fossils I.D.'s

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Can we have pictures of the opposite side of these ones?

 

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On 11/27/2017 at 7:19 PM, M Harvey said:

You may be right.  Hard to tell from the small photo.

True. It does sometimes take a trained eye to see small details.

 

Max Derème

 

"I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day."

   - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier

 

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