Rockwood Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 From my first trip to the brooks a few years back. I just called it plant at the time. Am I even close on either ? Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Big Brook, or Ramanessin. Monmoth county NewJersey. Shouldn't rely on the tags. Link to post Share on other sites
Dewbunny Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 They look a lot like some of the calamites fragments I've found. Mine are Carboniferous but I think they can be found into early Permian. Just a guess. Link to post Share on other sites
ynot Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I would agree with petrified wood but not palm. It does not exhibit the fibrous nature of palm. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, ynot said: It does not exhibit the fibrous nature of palm Look at the lower right corner of the piece riding piggy back (on the right) in the second photo. That texture is more pronounced in them than shows in the photo. Remember there is a lot of iron in those brooks. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 53 minutes ago, Dewbunny said: They look a lot like some of the calamites fragments I've found. Mine are Carboniferous but I think they can be found into early Permian. Just a guess. Some paleo fossils show up there. They are thought to be glacial eratics. They are all marine as far as I know. Most of it is cretaceous though. Link to post Share on other sites
ynot Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Yours does not show the fibrous structure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sixgill pete Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I agree with Tony. While it does appear to be pet wood, it does not look like palm to me either. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Angiosperm ? Link to post Share on other sites
ynot Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 57 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Angiosperm ? Need better pictures of the grain to tell. The larger piece looks similar to oak, but can not be sure from this oblique view. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Maybe a little better. Full disclosure: there may be a subliminal message in this post. Link to post Share on other sites
ynot Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Thanks for the additional pictures. The first picture resembles oak grain, but is a bit obscured so I am not positive. The second picture looks like a non fossil rock. If it is the end view of the piece in the first picture I would go with not petrified wood on this piece. Third picture - ? It is impossible to identify wood without looking at the cellular structure. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, ynot said: If it is the end view of the piece in the first picture It is. I'll save the others for the day I get set up to thin section things like this. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
abyssunder Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I think this one looks close to Palmoxylon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ynot Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, abyssunder said: I think this one looks close to Palmoxylon. I think abysunder may be right on this one, which makes Me wonder about the others. Maybe better close up pictures of each item may lead to a different conclusion than I previously gave. Link to post Share on other sites
Plax Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 this looks like poorly preserved lag bone to me. The core of the bone has been decomposed, dissolved or whatever over time and the resistant outer portion preserved. A resistant clast of this size may have been reworked over several transgressions and regressions until it is basically a rock. My comment may not apply to all of these pieces. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Al Dente Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I agree with Plax that one of the pieces is bone. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 19 hours ago, Plax said: this looks like poorly preserved lag bone to me. The core of the bone has been decomposed, dissolved or whatever over time and the resistant outer portion preserved. A resistant clast of this size may have been reworked over several transgressions and regressions until it is basically a rock. My comment may not apply to all of these pieces. This explanation is more in line with typical finds in the area. I understand lignite is common, but I've never seen mineralized wood from there. Link to post Share on other sites
abyssunder Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Questions: How light it is? Could you determine the specific gravity? Link to post Share on other sites
Harry Pristis Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I agree with unid. wood, unid. bone, and unid. object. No palmoxylon that I can recognize. Link to post Share on other sites
Rockwood Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Harry Pristis said: I agree with unid. wood, unid. bone, and unid. object. And, the lumper goes down in flames. Link to post Share on other sites
Plantguy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Rockwood said: And, the lumper goes down in flames. Hang in there. Flames can be good and can keep you warm. I have all kinds of scorch marks from my past adventures!! LOL. I keep picking up small unknowns and you just never know...Its much easier when you find something complete but how many times does that happen! Regards, Chris Link to post Share on other sites
Plax Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 3:45 AM, Rockwood said: And, the lumper goes down in flames. Unless that's a giant match stick you need to get credit for even recognizing these as fossils! This material is what ends up in "screen dumps" and occasionally one finds a real prize among the rejects. Unbiased collectors such as yourself are the exception not the norm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Plantguy Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 1:32 PM, Plax said: Unless that's a giant match stick you need to get credit for even recognizing these as fossils! This material is what ends up in "screen dumps" and occasionally one finds a real prize among the rejects. Unbiased collectors such as yourself are the exception not the norm. Don is absolutely correct! Continued hunting success. Regards, Chris Link to post Share on other sites
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