Max-fossils Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Hi all, This great little Gastropod was given to me by Cris & Kyle from Fossil Voyages. They found it somewhere in Putnam County, Florida. They said it was likely from the Nashua Formation, which is early Pleistocene. So I’m trying to put a species name on it, but I can’t even find the family! If you could help with ID in any way (even pointing out the family that you think it might be part of would help; of course going straight to genus or species is better) I’d be more than glad to hear your thoughts! Thanks in advance! Max Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 @MikeR again, hope you don’t mind me tagging you... Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Busycotypus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Al Dente said: Busycotypus? Hmm... there is some similarity, but in the Busycotypus there is a clear ridge all around the top part of the shell, while here it’s really round (and the rest of the shell seems very well preserved, so I’d be surprised if it’s simply that the ridge was worn away). I did consider though the Busyconidae family (or something related) but haven’t found any real matches. Thanks a lot for your help though! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Busycoarctum ? Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said: Busycoarctum ? Thanks the help Adam! But again, I don’t agree, for the same reason of why I don’t agree with Busycotypus (above). Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Oh, one important thing to take in mind is that this is a sinistral shell (the opening is on the left side of the shell). So all species with an opening on the other side can be discarded from the drawing table. By the way, in fossilworks.org , in the PaleoDB 79748 (fossils from Rucks Pit Mbr, from the Nashua Fm, early Pleistocene), in the Busyconidae family, there are four species presented: “Pyruella bladenense” = Busycon bladenense, “Busycon rucksorum” = Busycon carica, “Sinistrofulgur yeehaw” = Busycon yeehaw, Busycotypus scotti. Unfortunately googling images of these species doesn’t reveal much good results. Also, Fossilworks probably doesn’t have a full database of all the species present in the area, so it could still be another species. Also, don’t forget that maybe it isn’t even in the Busyconidae family! Argh, this one is a real challenge Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Sinistrofulgar contrarium I believe. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hey Max, I'm liking Petes ID... Searching the university Florida fossil collections db might help you to back into what they've collected and provide you an ID. Here's a search by the genus and the formation. You can do narrow down the search with more data elements as you have them. Generall, there are not too many photos of the specimens though. https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/search_proc.asp?page_no=5&MaxRecords=10&total_recs=43&trys=2&where_stg=+genus+%3D+'SINISTROFULGUR'+and+formation+%3D+'NASHUA+FORMATION'&genus=SINISTROFULGUR&formation=NASHUA FORMATION They also do have General photo galleries by groups and many fossil individual species from Florida and some non-Floridians that might help as well if you are interested. https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/galleries.htm Florida Fossil Gastropods https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Florida Mollusca-Gastropoda Florida Fossil Bivalve,Gastropod and scaphopod holotypes https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Holotype Mollusca Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Might be the below correct considering the Latin word? Busyco(n) typus " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeR Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Sinistrofulgur yeehaw Petuch, 1994. One of Petuch's species that I agree with. Mike "A problem solved is a problem caused"--Karl Pilkington "I was dead for millions of years before I was born and it never inconvenienced me a bit." -- Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 16 hours ago, abyssunder said: Might be the below correct considering the Latin word? Busyco(n) typus I'm afraid not... a google search doesn't reveal anything. Busycotypus is a valid genus btw. But that could have worked! Maybe you're a vizier, and know about the new future species that's gonna be named! 17 hours ago, Plantguy said: Hey Max, I'm liking Petes ID... Searching the university Florida fossil collections db might help you to back into what they've collected and provide you an ID. Here's a search by the genus and the formation. You can do narrow down the search with more data elements as you have them. Generall, there are not too many photos of the specimens though. https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/search_proc.asp?page_no=5&MaxRecords=10&total_recs=43&trys=2&where_stg=+genus+%3D+'SINISTROFULGUR'+and+formation+%3D+'NASHUA+FORMATION'&genus=SINISTROFULGUR&formation=NASHUA FORMATION They also do have General photo galleries by groups and many fossil individual species from Florida and some non-Floridians that might help as well if you are interested. https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/galleries.htm Florida Fossil Gastropods https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Florida Mollusca-Gastropoda Florida Fossil Bivalve,Gastropod and scaphopod holotypes https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Holotype Mollusca Regards, Chris Wow, these are very useful links! Thank you so much! I bookmarked them btw On 1/1/2018 at 5:55 PM, sixgill pete said: Sinistrofulgar contrarium I believe. 45 minutes ago, MikeR said: Sinistrofulgur yeehaw Petuch, 1994. One of Petuch's species that I agree with. Mike Sinistrofulgur yeehaw does seem to fit pretty well. Look at this link from Chris' recommendation. Thank you guys so much for helping me with this one!!! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 4 hours ago, MikeR said: Sinistrofulgur yeehaw Petuch, 1994. One of Petuch's species that I agree with. Mike Well, I had the Genus correct! Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, sixgill pete said: Well, I had the Genus correct! You did indeed! Thanks again, and good job. Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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