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Max-fossils

Hi all,

 

This great little Gastropod was given to me by Cris & Kyle from Fossil Voyages. They found it somewhere in Putnam County, Florida. They said it was likely from the Nashua Formation, which is early Pleistocene. 

 

So I’m trying to put a species name on it, but I can’t even find the family! :wacko:

 

If you could help with ID in any way (even pointing out the family that you think it might be part of would help; of course going straight to genus or species is better) I’d be more than glad to hear your thoughts!

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Max

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@MikeR again, hope you don’t mind me tagging you...

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Al Dente

Busycotypus?

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Max-fossils
2 minutes ago, Al Dente said:

Busycotypus?

Hmm... there is some similarity, but in the Busycotypus there is a clear ridge all around the top part of the shell, while here it’s really round (and the rest of the shell seems very well preserved, so I’d be surprised if it’s simply that the ridge was worn away). I did consider though the Busyconidae family (or something related) but haven’t found any real matches. Thanks a lot for your help though! :D

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Tidgy's Dad

Busycoarctum ?

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14 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

Busycoarctum ?

Thanks the help Adam! But again, I don’t agree, for the same reason of why I don’t agree with Busycotypus (above). 

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Max-fossils

Oh, one important thing to take in mind is that this is a sinistral shell (the opening is on the left side of the shell). So all species with an opening on the other side can be discarded from the drawing table. 

 

By the way, in fossilworks.org , in the PaleoDB 79748 (fossils from Rucks Pit Mbr, from the Nashua Fm, early Pleistocene), in the Busyconidae family, there are four species presented: “Pyruella bladenense” = Busycon bladenense, “Busycon rucksorum” = Busycon carica, “Sinistrofulgur yeehaw” = Busycon yeehawBusycotypus scotti

 

Unfortunately googling images of these species doesn’t reveal much good results. :wacko:  Also, Fossilworks probably doesn’t have a full database of all the species present in the area, so it could still be another species. 

 

Also, don’t forget that maybe it isn’t even in the Busyconidae family! Argh, this one is a real challenge :headscratch:

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sixgill pete

Sinistrofulgar contrarium I believe.

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Plantguy

Hey Max, I'm liking Petes ID...

Searching the university Florida fossil collections db might help you to back into what they've collected and provide you an ID. Here's a search by the genus and the formation. You can do narrow down the search with more data elements as you have them. Generall, there are not too many photos of the specimens though. 

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/search_proc.asp?page_no=5&MaxRecords=10&total_recs=43&trys=2&where_stg=+genus+%3D+'SINISTROFULGUR'+and+formation+%3D+'NASHUA+FORMATION'&genus=SINISTROFULGUR&formation=NASHUA FORMATION

 

They also do have General photo galleries by groups and many fossil individual species from Florida and some non-Floridians that might help as well if you are interested. 

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/galleries.htm

Florida Fossil Gastropods

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Florida Mollusca-Gastropoda

Florida Fossil Bivalve,Gastropod and scaphopod holotypes

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Holotype Mollusca

 

Regards, Chris 

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abyssunder

Might be the below correct considering the Latin word? :)
Busyco(n) typus

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MikeR

Sinistrofulgur yeehaw Petuch, 1994.  One of Petuch's species that I agree with.

 

Mike

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16 hours ago, abyssunder said:

Might be the below correct considering the Latin word? :)
Busyco(n) typus

I'm afraid not... a google search doesn't reveal anything. Busycotypus is a valid genus btw. But that could have worked! Maybe you're a vizier, and know about the new future species that's gonna be named! :o

 

17 hours ago, Plantguy said:

Hey Max, I'm liking Petes ID...

Searching the university Florida fossil collections db might help you to back into what they've collected and provide you an ID. Here's a search by the genus and the formation. You can do narrow down the search with more data elements as you have them. Generall, there are not too many photos of the specimens though. 

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/search_proc.asp?page_no=5&MaxRecords=10&total_recs=43&trys=2&where_stg=+genus+%3D+'SINISTROFULGUR'+and+formation+%3D+'NASHUA+FORMATION'&genus=SINISTROFULGUR&formation=NASHUA FORMATION

 

They also do have General photo galleries by groups and many fossil individual species from Florida and some non-Floridians that might help as well if you are interested. 

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/galleries.htm

Florida Fossil Gastropods

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Florida Mollusca-Gastropoda

Florida Fossil Bivalve,Gastropod and scaphopod holotypes

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Holotype Mollusca

 

Regards, Chris 

Wow, these are very useful links! Thank you so much! I bookmarked them btw :)

 

On 1/1/2018 at 5:55 PM, sixgill pete said:

Sinistrofulgar contrarium I believe.

 

45 minutes ago, MikeR said:

Sinistrofulgur yeehaw Petuch, 1994.  One of Petuch's species that I agree with.

 

Mike

Sinistrofulgur yeehaw does seem to fit pretty well. Look at this link from Chris' recommendation. Thank you guys so much for helping me with this one!!! :fistbump:

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sixgill pete
4 hours ago, MikeR said:

Sinistrofulgur yeehaw Petuch, 1994.  One of Petuch's species that I agree with.

 

Mike

 

Well, I had the Genus correct!

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Max-fossils
Just now, sixgill pete said:

 

Well, I had the Genus correct!

You did indeed! :ighappy: Thanks again, and good job.

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