Dvddave Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hello everybody I found this fossil yesterday the piece I also believe to be a paleolithic sculpture containing fish /bears etc i would be very grateful if any of you guys could verify this fossil for me the fossil measures approx 8cm best regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andy- Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Not a seahorse I am afraid. This is what a seahorse fossil looks like. I am not sure if it's even a fossil or sculpture. It could be a mineral formation instead. We need more pictures, and we need the locality of where you found this. Looking forward to meeting my fellow Singaporean collectors! Do PM me if you are a Singaporean, or an overseas fossil-collector coming here for a holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I'm not sure what this is. It could be a fossil, but I think sea horse, fish, and bear can all be ruled out. You can post more photos as a response to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvddave Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 Here are some more photos many thanks David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvddave Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 I was meaning these chips to represent a face ? Also fish shaped on both sides maybe a paleolithic sculpture many thanks for your reply david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 It appears to be a partial ammonite imbedded in the stone. The other part seems to have broken off, since you can see the impression of the ribs and septa in the cross cut at the bottom of the first photo. In the photos that you've just posted you can see it even better. The stone is certainly not a paleolithic sculpture, but rather a concretion containing an ammonite and other fossilized bits. What you see as face or fish is just what we call pareidolia Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Roughly where was it found? It looks to me like flint nodules in Chalk, some of them being banded flint which often takes on strange pseudofosil forms. Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taogan Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I'm with Tarquin on this one. No fossils just interestingly shaped flint nodules. The first one is a banded flint, no sign of an ammonite in there to my eyes. Flint takes all sorts of shapes and sometimes looks very convincing, but fossils are rarely preserved as flint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I just see a geologic shape formed by natural conditions not man-made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Definitely flint nodule. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Quick aside: Seahorses are just odd fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Rockwood said: Quick aside: Seahorses are just odd fish. What!!!?!!?! I thought they were horses that lived in the sea!! “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Ok then. I'll go along with banded flint nodule as well, since I just noticed that pliocene is given in the tabs. Echinoids in flint are quite common, and other fossils do occur as well, so I thought maybe a rare ammonite was possible. I guess I'm just suffering from pareidolia, but that object sure did look like an ammonite viewed towards the venter to me. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: What!!!?!!?! I thought they were horses that lived in the sea!! Nope, all artiodactyls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Not an orthocone in the first pic then? John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnBrewer said: Not an orthocone in the first pic then? We're talking Pliocene here John Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Pliocene? I'll admit I am unaware of any flint nodule bearing chalk deposits of Pliocene age. Where are such deposits found? I associate flint and chalk with Cretaceous deposits. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 @Dvddave says it is pliocene, but fails to give a location or how He determined that age. I am in the chert camp on this piece. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Don't know the age , but it's clearly visible the dark flint core of the specimen. Sometimes flint nodules can contain fossil. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 No matter the age, wouldn’t say orthocone, septa(e? What ever the plural of septa is) are uneven. Geologic for me. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 septum - sing. septa - plur. all in nominative, accusative and vocative case " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 In the french forum where i am member, we have an entire post dedicated to the fossils in flint http://www.geoforum.fr/topic/33696-les-fossiles-dans-le-silex/?page=2 There i found those photos and documents other members have posted : "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I think She's got it! YEAH Fifi !!! Good call. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Here are other photos, one of the result of pressure and the other seems to be biopertubations.s "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, ynot said: I think She's got it! YEAH Fifi !!! Good call. Thank you Tony. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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