brad hinkelman Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I think first is coprolite if anyone can confirm and any help on other 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Where are these found? What is their size? Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad hinkelman Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 a dime is placed next to the pics and its big brook nj cretaceous stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, brad hinkelman said: a dime is placed next to the pics and its big brook nj cretaceous stream Missed the dime. Sorry. 2 looks like an orthocone nautilus. 3 looks like a crusher tooth from a shark (do not know which one). Maybe @GeschWhat or @Carl will know about 1. 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 The last item is part of a crab or shrimp claw. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Al Dente said: The last item is part of a crab or shrimp claw. I can see that too. I hate oblique angle pictures. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad hinkelman Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Al Dente said: The last item is part of a crab or shrimp claw. ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, brad hinkelman said: I think first is coprolite if anyone can confirm and any help on other 2 I hope it doesn't float! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad hinkelman Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, caldigger said: I hope it doesn't float! lol,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Nice finds! 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 If that is a spiral and it is indeed a coprolite, it’s a non-teleost fish (am I correct on this?) so either shark or ray (and a few other fish) 1 “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: If that is a spiral and it is indeed a coprolite, it’s a non-teleost fish (am I correct on this?) so either shark or ray (and a few other fish) If a coprolite is a spiral coprolite it can be from a shark or ray or a few bony fish. However, I don't think the specimen in the original post is spiral. It reminds me more of the two Eocene coprolites from Virginia circled in the picture below which have been tentatively identified as croc coprolies by researchers looking at a large number of coprolites from Virginia. As far as the specimen in the original post, it is difficult to tell for sure from the single picture. It would help to see into the broken end and to see the other side of the specimen. Marco Sr. 4 "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Darktooth Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Nice finds Brad! 1 I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 7 hours ago, MarcoSr said: If a coprolite is a spiral coprolite it can be from a shark or ray or a few bony fish. However, I don't think the specimen in the original post is spiral. It reminds me more of the two Eocene coprolites from Virginia circled in the picture below which have been tentatively identified as croc coprolies by researchers looking at a large number of coprolites from Virginia. As far as the specimen in the original post, it is difficult to tell for sure from the single picture. It would help to see into the broken end and to see the other side of the specimen. Marco Sr. Looks a pretty good match to me! 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 9 hours ago, ynot said: 2 looks like an orthocone nautilus. Paleos do show up there now and then. I can't explain the would be septa, but this looks more like the concretion found there than the eratics that I've seen though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnbuckeye Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 12 hours ago, ynot said: . I know almost nothing about coprolites (did find a nice croc coprolite in Wyoming) but I find MANY cephalopods. So when I see the "coprolite" pictured, my mind goes to orthocone nautilus. and with #2 being IDed as such, why not #1 as a possibility? I can ALMOST convince myself that I see a siphuncle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, minnbuckeye said: I know almost nothing about coprolites (did find a nice croc coprolite in Wyoming) but I find MANY cephalopods. So when I see the "coprolite" pictured, my mind goes to orthocone nautilus. and with #2 being IDed as such, why not #1 as a possibility? I can ALMOST convince myself that I see a siphuncle. But how would you explain the other end ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnbuckeye Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Rockwood said: But how would you explain the other end ? I can't. Just providing a different perspective on what is likely a coprolite. If Brad looks at the specimen closely though and there is a siphuncle, no need to explain the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Seeing the new pictures, if a coprolite (the marine coprolites that I see are more rounded than flattened like this specimen), I would lean toward croc. My broken croc coprolites are very irregular along the breaks and very rough inside just like this specimen. My shark, ray, and bony fish coprolites have very even breaks and are really smooth inside. However, I don't collect big brook and am not familiar at all with what the concretions look like or what else is found at the site (something like a lobster tail). Someone like Steve @non-remanié would be a good person to get an opinion from. Marco Sr. 1 "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, minnbuckeye said: If Brad looks at the specimen closely though and there is a siphuncle, no need to explain the other end. In my mind that would all the more reason to defend the siphuncle ID by explaining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 The first thing is a shark coprolite. I'm not sure on the second thing, but it might be some type of invertebrate. The third thing is a lobster (Hoploparia gabbi) arm segment. 2 “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Brad, I know nothing about the area, and can't really help with ID, but just by googling "Big Brook fossils" I found this website. Looks pretty well-made and surely useful for your next IDs. Max 1 hour ago, josephstrizhak said: The third thing is a lobster (Hoploparia gabbi) arm segment. How can you tell the species from such a small fragment? Just curious... 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankh8147 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Agree with all of the ID's but for number 2 - make sure that isn't metal. I picked up something that looked just like that, tinged it against a rock and it ended up being metal. That might or might not be the same one.. 1. Is a spiral coprilite, so most likely shark. 3 is a crustacean claw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad hinkelman Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, frankh8147 said: Agree with all of the ID's but for number 2 - make sure that isn't metal. I picked up something that looked just like that, tinged it against a rock and it ended up being metal. That might or might not be the same one.. 1. Is a spiral coprilite, so most likely shark. 3 is a crustacean claw. a magnet doesn't stick to it and my metal detacter pin pointer doesn't sound off to it and I broke a piece of end off and seems to me geological like a mold or looks like iron so not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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