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Haravex

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Ok there are a few i am going to post some are what might be chunkosaurus but odd shape enough to be giving clues, but the first one is a caudal vert which I was fairly confident was croc until I seen the attached image so I decided I would post the vert for a second opinion. If nothing else it can be added to the kem kem vert thread to help others.

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6 hours ago, Haravex said:

Ok there are a few i am going to post some are what might be chunkosaurus but odd shape enough to be giving clues, but the first one is a caudal vert which I was fairly confident was croc until I seen the attached image so I decided I would post the vert for a second opinion. If nothing else it can be added to the kem kem vert thread to help others.

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It looks a bit like a Kemkemia caudal vert. It might be another species but I think it's croc.

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Thanks I will wait for LT and Troodon but I also thought Kemkemia but just wanted to be sure.

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I agree, croc caudal vert from the end of the tail. I'm not sure how crocs differ in their tails though. So I woulnd't put a genus name on it.

Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite

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Agree Croc but there are so many species in the Kem Kem not sure you can assign it to any one.  I do not think it compares well with Kemkemia holotype,  the neural spine area is very different, and more robust, might be positional but not one you can compare against.    Looks more like the modern one Doushanto posted or like one from the Hell Creek Fm see below.  Just a typical design that has not changed very much.

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Hell Creek Fm  this configuation continues to the end

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On 4/6/2018 at 6:16 PM, Haravex said:

Thanks for the help what species is the crocodile from the hell creek?

I think Borealosuchus sternbergii is the main one, but there are others. 

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This one given the texture on the outside I am sure is croc, on the outside there is still some matrix that needs prepping however the inside has non although I thought it did there is a dark areas that are slightly raised above the fossil and looking under a 60x loupe confirms that it is not matrix any ideas what it could be possibly skin? Also not much in terms of location is known about this other than kem kem it could be from either formations and any location for around 10km outside of el begga, I originally picked it up before removing the outside matrix thinking it might have been a piece of petrified wood or conifer. 

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A piece of croc jaw for sure. That weird pattern looks pretty similar to what I generally see in tooth sockets. So I don't see much out of the ordinary. Judging from the angle of the tooth sockets I'd say this is part of the front of the croc jaw. But I can't really tell if it's upper or lower jaw. Curvature and possible sutures might give more hints.

Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite

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On 4/6/2018 at 10:16 AM, Haravex said:

Thanks for the help what species is the crocodile from the hell creek?

Brachychampsa montana

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4 hours ago, Haravex said:

This one given the texture on the outside I am sure is croc, on the outside there is still some matrix that needs prepping however the inside has non although I thought it did there is a dark areas that are slightly raised above the fossil and looking under a 60x loupe confirms that it is not matrix any ideas what it could be possibly skin? Also not much in terms of location is known about this other than kem kem it could be from either formations and any location for around 10km outside of el begga, I originally picked it up before removing the outside matrix thinking it might have been a piece of petrified wood or conifer. 

 

I'm with LT on this one a a Croc jaw

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Thanks for information guys it really helps never seen that structure before so was a new one for me. Sadly there are no sutures but an identification on what piece it is great.

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What's the size of that croc jaw? Because size could possibly eliminate some croc candidates.

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Is It is 5inch by 3inch now for something completely different I picked up a few pieces one for prep practice and the second because I like it and have never seen it before. The prep is a Devonian trilobite I think drotops but posting here as there are some real experts on these bugs. The second I am most excited about is a plaqaderm from a boney fish again Devonian period I could only think of dunkleostosus but am sure there are more species than this.

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You might want to start two new post with the last two items to get a broader view.   Will get more fish and bugs guys looking at them

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Ok question is late at night so not good light to take photographs but are there any inclinations of tyrannosaurids in the kem kem?

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11 hours ago, Haravex said:

Ok question is late at night so not good light to take photographs but are there any inclinations of tyrannosaurids in the kem kem?

Ha ha sure looks like one with those serrations but no or not yet.  The environment not suited for herbivores which was their primary food source.  Beautiful tooth.  If I had to guess its a dentary tooth of a large bodied Abelsaurid. 

 

Check this out almost a exact match

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The teeth of majungasaurus seem rather small this is 47mm in length (or 1.85" for those across the pond) and there where sauropods but the kem kem is really bizarre so could just be an ablesauirde grew to such size

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