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Andyl

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Andyl

Hiya - I'm wondering if anyone can help me fill in the missing areas of my ichthyosaur sculpt? It's an attempt at an ichthyosaurus breviceps skull but I just can't  find any photos / diagrams that give me the information / confidence to complete the back. Any help would be really appreciated!

many thanks!

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Tidgy's Dad

That's really nice! 

Hope to be able to see the finished version when you're done. :)

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indominus rex

That's a nice little sculpture  of an Icthyosaurus skull :dinosmile::dinothumb: well done

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caldigger

Mice job so far!  I would attempt something like this, but you probably wouldn't be able to tell if it was an Icthyosaurus or a banana. Not real great at sculpting.

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LordTrilobite

Looks like it's shaping up to be a great sculpture. Sadly I don't have any good reference of the back of Ichthyosaurus skulls. It might be worth checking out Ichthyosaur skulls in general to get an overall feel for the type of proportions and details you'd expect to find.

The only images I seem to find are from the Pterosaur Heresies website. But that website is not to be trusted so I dunno where to get good reference.

 

It might be worth visiting the London Natural History Museum as they have loads of Ichthyosaurs there. They have a 3D Opthalmosaurus (I think) skeleton as well. Using that as reference might help.

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Ludwigia

Is this any help?

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Foozil

Can't help you, but well done on the model, looking forward to seeing it finished :) 

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doushantuo

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Andyl

Thanks very much for all your replies - I'm happy you guys enjoyed it. Unfortunately opthalmosaurus at the natural history has gone when they changed the central hall layout - I couldn't find it anywhere else .. I'm just after a generic ichthyosaur skull layout really. I've looked at pterosaur heresies but yes there is no point replicating something incorrect. Thanks Doushantuo there's a new image there which will help :dinothumb:. Below is my skull first attempt - it's I.conybeari. It's going to remain unpainted until I get a chance to cast it into resin. My plan is small series of species..

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JohnBrewer

What you want is Handbook of Paleoherpetology - Part 8, Ichthyopterygia (2003). By McGowan and Motani. It is pricey, like £100. Maybe you could get it from a library. I’d like a copy of this book if anyone had a pdf @abyssunder @doushantuo @Fruitbat :D 

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Andyl

Thanks very much for that drawing Paul :dinothumb::dinothumb:!

its exactly what I was after! 

When you see how much cartilage there is I suppose it's no surprise that these small bones all collapse. I will have a go at finishing it off now  And keep my eye out for the book :dinothumb:. Thanks all!

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-Andy-

Can't wait to see your finished product, Andy!

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paulgdls

Andy

 

I may be interested if you can make copies of your completed skulls. 

 

Here are some drawings of the occiput of Ichthyosaurus sp.:

 

 

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occiput of Ichthyosaurus side view.jpg

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Andyl

Thanks Paul :dinothumb:. My aim is to make copies but I'm not sure of the timescale. I want to concentrate on trying to make a good job of the sculpts first.. When I have 3 or 4 done to my satisfaction I will start looking at reproducing them - that's the plan!

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Mahnmut

Hi,

that looks great!

As I am also building scale replicas of marine tetrapods I am intrigued to see your Ichthyosaurs.

My Focus is more on Cetaceans, and my level of detail is way below yours as far as I see your skulls.

I´d really like to discuss materials and ways of reproducing handmade models,

I would also like to add one of your ichthyosaurs to my marine tetrapod family, should you decide to reproduce them. .

Maybe the geoworld ichthiosaur is interesting to you also, because it is cheap and not quite as bad as the others from that series. I found it a good basis to improve upon.

Cheers

Jan

 

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Andyl

thanks Mahnmut! I must admit to browsing some of your posts previously. Trying to see how other people do stuff is a great way to make progress :) You are much more prolific than me and they look great! At the moment skulls are what im concentrating on but i would like to put a skeleton behind one eventually! If you want to ask me stuff then feel free to message me. - I may have some questions for you as well!

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Mahnmut

Hi,sent you a pm.

Cheers

Jan

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