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So I was wondering if these are fake or real.  Opinions from the experts?

I am sure we have all seen these before on the auction site.

 

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Number one.

 

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Number two,

 

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Well, i'm likely to get shot down in flames, but they look terrible fakes to me. :)

I think the first one is supposed to be Manchurochelys which is commonly faked, but this one is worse than usual. 

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Really bad fakes.  :( 

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No thanks, I'll pass.

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I can identify them as Anosteira fakus

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Somewhere in China there is a man or woman making these, and I wonder if said person has ever seen a real fossil turtle. The pelvis is hanging out the second one? 

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Well I figured so. And I really like your amusing responses.

Andy you miss identified it.  I believe it is Anotheroniuos facus.

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Somewhere out there someone has won an auction and thinking to themself, " Boy did I ever just make the score of a lifetime!"

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Actually, the genus\species has been changed to Construitur male-fictus.  ;) 

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This turtle fossil is usually marketed as being called a "Manchurochelys liaoxiensis" or a "Ordosemys liaoxiensis". Rarely have I seen them being sold with at least something real in the shell, since 99.9% are usually fully carved like the one you showed us. It does not matter which country the seller is when the complete fossil comes with a low price, because in the overwhelming majority of cases this means a trap. The more beautiful and complete the fossil is, and still at a good price, the greater the risk of a red flag.

 

Below I am sending the photo of a genuine fossil tortoise of the specie Ordosemys liaoxiensis, this is belongs to my collection, and thus, you can compare how it should look like a turtle of this species that is real:

 

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1 hour ago, Seguidora-de-Isis said:

This turtle fossil is usually marketed as being called a "Manchurochelys liaoxiensis" or a "Ordosemys liaoxiensis". Rarely have I seen them being sold with at least something real in the shell, since 99.9% are usually fully carved like the one you showed us. It does not matter which country the seller is when the complete fossil comes with a low price, because in the overwhelming majority of cases this means a trap. The more beautiful and complete the fossil is, and still at a good price, the greater the risk of a red flag.

 

Below I am sending the photo of a genuine fossil tortoise of the specie Ordosemys liaoxiensis, this is belongs to my collection, and thus, you can compare how it should look like a turtle of this species that is real:

 

 

That's a beauty.! :envy:

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3 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

That's a beauty.! :envy:

 

Thank you so much for praising my specimen, my dear friend @Tidgy's Dad... My friend from so far away! :1-SlapHands_zpsbb015b76:

 

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