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Grandfather's attic 06/02 mystery finds.


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Hello everyone!

 

Today we found a few more fossils on grandfather's attic we did not recognize.

 

#1: ??? Somesort of fossilized seed maybe? It is rock hard, and turned to stone. (This fossil is smaller than a walnut, but larger than a hazel nut.) ID'd as dermal denticle from a skate by AlDente.

 

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#2: Looks and feels like fossilized wood, but it's quite unique. We haven't found a second one like this on the attic. ID'd as Selenite by Ynot.

 

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#3: These were found amidst bivalves:

 

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#4: Plates with patterns which reminded us of dendrites. Is this somesort of pseudo-fossil? ID'd Stromatolites by Rockwood.

 

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4 minutes ago, lildragon said:

#4: Plates with patterns which reminded us of dendrites. Is this somesort of pseudo-fossil? 

I think they may be stromatolites. 

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13 minutes ago, lildragon said:

#2: Looks and feels like fossilized wood, but it's quite unique.

Looks like selenite. A form of calcite.

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24 minutes ago, ynot said:

Looks like selenite. A form of calcite.

A form that could have been a crinoid stem section originally ?

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Something for scale would be helpful.  I have no idea of the size of the first object for example.

 

The fossil on the left in photo 3 may be an internal mold of a brachiopod, possibly a pentamerid such as Stricklandia.  More views could be helpful.

 

#2 is likely a mineral, as has been suggested.

 

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2 hours ago, ynot said:

Looks like selenite. A form of calcite.

Selenite is a form of gypsum. C'mon ynot, rookie mistake.:P

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2 minutes ago, ynot said:

My bad.:blush:

Dang dyslexia.:doh!:

Well I guess we will let it slide this time!:D

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@ynot This block of Selenite was actually found inside a box full of fossilized wood, so we were quite puzzled. It looks absolutely nothing like the other gypsum crystals we found, and we found many different forms.

 

@FossilDAWG I ordered plastic size reference plates for photography, just waiting for it to arrive by mail! Should help with future ID'ing. But to give you an idea of the size of the first fossils: It's smaller than a walnut, and a little larger than a hazel nut.

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9 hours ago, FossilDAWG said:

Something for scale would be helpful.  I have no idea of the size of the first object for example.

 

The fossil on the left in photo 3 may be an internal mold of a brachiopod, possibly a pentamerid such as Stricklandia.  More views could be helpful.

 

#2 is likely a mineral, as has been suggested.

 

Don

 

 

Do you think the one on the right might be the int. mold of a brach as well, though a different kind?

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#4 doesn't say 'stromatolite' to me but I do see sedimentary plates with something along the lines of dendrites.

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Number one is a dermal denticle from a skate. Modern Raja clavata have these large denticles on the ventral side of their body.

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1 hour ago, Al Dente said:

Number one is a dermal denticle from a skate. Modern Raja clavata have these large denticles on the ventral side of their body.

Wow, I would've never guessed that. Most denticles I've seen have a less round shape than this one. Thanks for the ID!

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I agree with Raja clavata dermal denticle. The thorn is broken off.
Here is one of my finds, from the Black Sea, Romania.

 

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#4 - High resolution images would be more convincing if the features present on the plates are dendrites or possibly rhodophytes. :)

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