Sacha Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I had a rather unspectacular trip on the Peace yesterday and I'll blame it on high water from the weekend's rain. Any excuse will do at this point. I did find this rather peculuar tooth that looks like a pre-molar but does not look similar to the cow or bison pre-molars that I have. I originally thought it might be a recent tooth, but now that it's drying, I'm not so sure. I'd appreciate help with an ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Juvenile rhino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 That is different. Maybe @Harry Pristis will recognize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacha Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, caldigger said: Juvenile rhino? I would love for that to be the case. That was my initial impression when I saw the "pie" shape on the chewing surface, but I couldn't find an image to verify it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, caldigger said: Juvenile rhino? I was thinking that as well John.... we'll see what Harry has to say Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Nice find, John... Anything that requires an ID is exciting. Might be Bison premolar m3... If Rhino, at this size would have to be Menocerus... that would be amazing!!!! http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/gallery/image/3938-bison-teeth/ The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 The images suggest to me a bison p1 with advanced wear. Just a guess. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacha Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 @Harry Pristis Harry, on the right is a p1 you've identified for me in a previous post and on the left is the subject tooth. I don't se a lot of similarity, although I seem to be rather blind with teeth and faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Harry Pristis said: The images suggest to me a bison p1 with advanced wear. Just a guess. POP!!! and the bubble is burst. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Still looks like rhino to me. But what do I know? Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.N.FossilmanLithuania Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 It can be not only rhino- to me it looks very similar to Bison. The most similar look the first premolars from the frontal part of jaw, however many ungulates (rhinos and also artiodactyls) have similar shape of this tooth. If it is Miocene Bison, it should be interesting and old species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacha Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 I've forwarded all 4 pictures to R. Hulbert at UF to see what he has to say. I'll edit this comment with his ID if he has one. And the results are in: "I think is it a pathologic (i.e., malformed) first upper premolar from a bison. If that is not right I am otherwise stumped." Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Interesting find John! Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacha Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 48 minutes ago, Plantguy said: Interesting find John! Regards, Chris Thanks Chris. Harry was (as should be expected) on the right path, but this was a weird one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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